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[–] cm0002@lemmy.zip 107 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Disable your ad blocker to see this content" no I don't think I will Admiral

https://archive.is/hxS1n

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

I wish there was some way to make site owners understand that neither I nor most people object to the occasional ad banner, it's the "tracking every single thing you do online and selling it to Palantir" aspect that I'm blocking you for.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is exactly why I refuse to use gig services. They're all the worst kind of exploitation. It's like a bandaid solution but made out of used painters tape.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Remove "tape" and you're correct.

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Weird story. Apparently, the delivery driver walked into the customers home (door was open) where he was waiting? with his pants and underwear down.

When I delivered pizza, I would absolutely never enter a home. That's like rule #1. Really good way to get robbed. Or see something you don't want to.

And seeing a naked man in his home is not the same as being sexually assaulted. It's gross and probably illegal if he set it all up for sexual gratification, but unless there's more to this story, there was no assault.

I'm not sure what she wanted door dash to do about it? If you report something like that they obviously won't respond immediately, it would get flagged and sent to a legal team.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well, maybe deacticate the guy's account instead of the victim? Or arbitrate it properly? Definitely not disable access to her account (and money). But I guess now she has a legal case against them for both negligence and wage theft (I know the US doesn't really prosecute wage theft, even though it is the biggest form of financial theft).

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I assumed they froze both accounts to have a legal team properly review everything. Even a small complaint can get your account frozen. And it's not wage theft when you're technically a third party contractor.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Sounds like she posted her video of the customer online, which would seem to make her hands unclean. Taking the video for your own evidence sure, but posting it online crosses a line. So I could easily see both parties having their accounts suspended.

So he likely set a trap for a stranger to get a show to get off on being a bit of an exhibitionist, but it's hard to really prove that intent, and she took a video of it and then posted it online, which is another whole can of worms being opened.

Now if they are refusing to let her take money from doordash, she's got a legal case, though unsure if it is 'wage theft', since the whole loophole with these 'gig' companies is that there's no employment and it's all transactional. Terribly exploitative system.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Don't excuse this guy's behavior. He set up a deliberate situation in order to make her uncomfortable. That is sexual assault.

Also, she didn't "go into" his house. He was visible from well outside the door. Which is viewable from public areas. Which is a crime.

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[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 33 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The article uses the term harassment more than assault. Either way rape isn’t the only thing charged as sexual assault and depending on jurisdiction, can encapsulate a variety of offending.

Sexual assault is a broad term that captures any sexual act or attempt to engage in a sexual act where consent is not obtained or freely and voluntarily given. It represents any behaviour of a sexual nature that makes someone feel uncomfortable, frightened, intimidated, or threatened.

Also, so what if it wasn’t that form of specific sexual assault? I doubt your implying that anything less than rape should be handwaved away so I’m a bit confused by the whole “that isn’t sexual assault” rhetoric I’ve seen on this post.

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I doubt your implying

This is exactly it. A lot of people out there don't think it's anything unless they've full on held you down and penetrated. And they go on the internet and think they can be clever in trying to use too many words to justify it like they're Jordan Peterson or something.

[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it’s been a grim series of comment chains. I expected better for some reason but hey at least there’s been some pushback to that rhetoric i guess.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah going inside was dumb and should be against the rules if it isn't already. Still I would expect them to ban the dude from placing future orders and would want to know if they had ignored previous reports about him (probably need a lawyer of your own to find that out though). No reason they should block her from money she earned even if they don't allow her to do more orders until they find out what happened.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I delivered pizza, I would absolutely never enter a home. That's like rule #1. Really good way to get robbed. Or see something you don't want to.

I also delivered pizza and knew this rule..... Partly because fellow drivers and my workplace told me about it. These drivers don't have coworkers nor bosses that tell them what is and what isn't safe. A lot of them are young and have never worked with the general public, or have previously been very sheltered.

And seeing a naked man in his home is not the same as being sexually assaulted. It's gross and probably illegal if he set it all up for sexual gratification, but unless there's more to this story, there was no assault.

Yes, it is..... Like most people, you are confusing assault with battery. Sexual assault is any nonconsensual sexual contact(meeting/encounter). Sexual battery or aggravated sexual assault is sexual assault with the use or threat of force.

I'm not sure what she wanted door dash to do about it? If you report something like that they obviously won't respond immediately, it would get flagged and sent to a legal team.

Some of the apps require you to get a code from the buyer to get paid for the delivery.

I don't really know why we are blaming the victim here?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, it is..... Like most people, you are confusing assault with battery. Sexual assault is any nonconsensual sexual contact(meeting/encounter). Sexual battery or aggravated sexual assault is sexual assault with the use or threat of force.

An alternate perspective: he had a peeper let herself into his house, then accuse him of being naked in his own home.

From her perspective, she obviously believes it was an intentional assault. On the other side of the same coin, it’s entirely possible that she just strolled into some dude’s house when he wasn’t expecting it. And if that’s the case, he was the one who was assaulted. He was out of public view, and being naked in the privacy of your own home isn’t a crime by itself. By her own admission, she entered his house.

My point is simply that we can’t know what happened, because none of us were there. So to simply open by stating that she was assaulted is inherently biased. If he intentionally set it up for his own gratification, he assaulted her. I’m not arguing against that. But if he genuinely wasn’t expecting someone to let themselves into his house, (because honestly, why would anyone think that’s okay to do?) then he’s actually the victim here.

And the actual “what happened” part is something for lawyers to argue over in court. If he had a note saying to let herself in, and the front door was standing wide open, it’s a pretty open and shut case against him. Still a monumentally stupid move on the driver’s part, (because seriously, why would you ever enter someone’s home while making a delivery?) but it would obviously be something that he orchestrated. But again, that’s for the lawyers to argue about, because there could be confounding factors. After all, there are plenty of perfectly valid (and perfectly legal) reasons for someone to be naked in the privacy of their own home.

What if there was no note to let yourself in, and he just had the door open because he was airing out the house on a nice day? Maybe he expected the driver to leave his food on the porch. Maybe he didn’t have his phone on him (because he was naked and had no pockets) and therefore didn’t feel the notification that the driver was on their way. Those are just a few quick what-ifs off the top of my head, and any of them could be possible. And what if, after any of those scenarios, the dude reported the driver for walking in on him? We don’t know why she was banned, but from DoorDash’s perspective it could be acting on a report that the driver essentially broke into someone’s home. We don’t have enough info to say either way.

DoorDash should at least allow her to access her earnings. That part is shitty, and saying “but she signed a contract saying they can withhold her earnings” is (at best) an extremely shitty excuse.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Blaming the victim and defending the pervert isn't a good look.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Walking into someone's home and complaining you saw him naked is not assault.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Is she the victim, though? From what I understand, the guy wasn't at the door, but asleep (or pretending to be) in his own home, which should be entirely legal. The "more info" link says the door was ajar and she filmed him. If she pushed open the door, entered his home and filmed him there, she might be the sex offender here.

Of course if he set this up intentionally, that's exhibitionism (not voyeurism, as the article incorrectly calls it), but still, inside his own home. I feel like that should be a safe place where you can dress or undress however you like. Although being visible from the outside might be an issue. I think this issue hinges on whether she had to push open the door or enter his home to see him exposed.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, ordering delivery then getting naked seems like normal behavior.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does sound like drunk behaviour. Or maybe even old person behaviour.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Naturists are often naked in their home. Lots of people are naked after a shower. He could have gotten home tired, order food, have a quick shower, and crash on the couch after that.

A deliverer should just ring the doorbell and wait at the door, not enter uninvited or try to peer inside.

I mean, it could have been an intentional exhibitionist setup, but it doesn't have to be. And entering someone's home and filming them sleeping naked, sounds a lot creepier to me.

I mean, the guy could be a creep, but he could be innocent too. She might be the innocent victim, but she might also be the creep here. We only hear her side of the story.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can't they leave the food at your door?

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems likely. Doordash and Uber are fucking trash.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 27 points 1 month ago

As are all corporations.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 27 points 1 month ago

Fuck Doordash! Please stop using those services! They're inherently exploitative.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My take: they are BOTH creeps. The dude ordered food, then got nude. That is a weird thing to do when you are expecting someone you aren't having sex with.

The lady is also a creep, because she entered the home and filmed him, then uploaded the vid. Most delivery folk just drop the food at the doorstep or push the doorbell to hand off the food. Going into a home is outside of their duties, for all sorts of reasons.

Doordash is also a baddy. They should have paid what the deliveryman is owed, and THEN formally deactivate their employment.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago

Classic "ESH" (everyone sucks here). As much as people like to pick a good guy and bad guy, a very significant percentage of shitty situations come down to ESH.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is why every app that touches money should be peer to peer. DoorDash would be an escrow, but unable to unilaterally seize the funds.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That’s…what escrow is.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Escrow is third party, second party can't be escrow. In this case door dash can't really be an escrow as it will be second party.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 15 points 1 month ago

Disgusting disgusting disgusting disgusting

No one ever use this brand again. They literally have so many competitors with cheaper fees.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck I fucking hate this fucking timeline

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Okay but also don't record people without their consent and post it publicly. Idk why she was suspended but that would be reason enough.

If you think it would be evidence of a crime and you felt like you needed it to pursue charges I could understand saving a photo or video privately to later turn over, but suppose dude got blitzed, ordered DoorDash, and passed out before it arrived, and you're gonna share that with 8 billion of your closest friends? Gtfo

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (8 children)

The fact that she filmed him inside his own home certainly sounds iffy to me. Do door dashers carry a body cam that films everything? That could explain how she accidentally filmed him. But if she filmed him intentionally, inside his own home, then doesn't that technically make her the sex offender in this story?

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

The door being wide open i think is the factor here. Seems strange in any situation I could think of. The nudes part is easily explain but why is the door wide open?

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I already looked into answering your door nude and yes that is legal, indecent exposure. It's not SA though.

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