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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 88 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The fact that in lieu of paying them they simply want you to log in with an account they control should speak volumes to the privacy implications.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

I bet if you do end up paying, you can only claim it if you make an account too..

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Not something I'm willing to do, but it's not a problem for most users who entered their email address long ago.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 64 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I give my sincere condolences to anyone that is forced to use this shitty corporate OS.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Switched to CachyOS Plasma on my main machine not even two weeks go! My only regret is that I didn‘t try it sooner. It has it‘s hiccups but QoL features make up for it. It actually works better for me than Windows did since Win7. At least so far. I genuinely enjoy using my computer again.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

(╭☞´ิ∀´ิ)╭☞ ayyyy

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What QOL features improved your experience?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I love the task manager and it‘s UI. It‘s just much easier to keep track of your connected devices, running programs and media playing in the background. The UI allows you to quickly adjust sound volume of programs without having to navigate through arbitrary menus. Or to navigate through a song or podcast running in the background. You can do that on a mini player from the Task manager (the equivalent to the task bar on Windows). External storage devices have a simple dismount button. No right clicks and searching for the right option necessary. There are many more little UI decisions that KDE did right. The dolphin browser and general file search functions are blazing fast. No comparison to Windows built in file browser. I also love how I can update almost all programs and drivers at the same time with one click.

There are of course some caveats but that‘s not really the OS‘ fault most of the time. For example my Discord didn‘t want to start until I update but the package wasn‘t ready yet for CachyOS. I looked for a solution online and found several options to deal with this problem. And that‘s honestly fantastic because everyone has different preferences and can use the solution that best suits them. I ended up disabling automatic updates for Discord in one file and then told Discord it‘s already on the new update by changing one digit in another file to resemble the current update. Now Discord will leave me alone with random updates and I can just update it whenever I want in Octopi (the app manager).

So what was a hiccup at first ended up being a learning experience. Now I understand my computer a little better and Discord won‘t annoy me as much anymore long term. This should be possible on Windows too but I would’ve never knew that without Linux. I‘m starting to understand what they mean by „finally owning my computer“. It takes time but it‘s very rewarding.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. And using Rufus to create your install media, you can even configure it to create a local account for you so you don't have to go through the rigmarole yourself.

Actually, I wonder if that still works with an image of the new current Win11 releases where the local account functionality has been "removed." I haven't tried it. Someone will probably chime in.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It works and you can create a local account only

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The article olympically ignores the option to install linux.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

They knew Lemmy would have that covered.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Here's is how to get 3 extra years for free: https://massgrave.dev/ without Microsoft account login

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

Potentially 6

[–] kosanovskiy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this get patched with one of their "security updates".

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They seem to not care, some methods are even server side, they could have patched hwidgen a decade ago

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 32 points 11 months ago
[–] tangeli@piefed.social 26 points 11 months ago (6 children)
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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but what if we all just install Linux?

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's a great idea! Which distro are we all installing?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 11 months ago

If serious, whichever one works best for you. Lots of info out there to help steer you to a good match. There are some that will have a harder time than others thanks to Microsoft domination all these years.

If not serious. Arch, of course.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

For a desktop OS, I have been recommending Linux Mint to new Linux users. The UI feels familiar to a Windows veteran, and the initial setup is designed to be user friendly.

However, don't fret too much over it. Distros are mostly just a pre-configuration of the OS, all of them can do everything.

[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I am SO glad that I don't have to deal with bullshit Microsoft workarounds anymore.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

K but can we just keep using windows 10 anyways?

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

You can, but you won't be getting security updates. Best to not put an OS without security updates on the network.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If you want to delay your switch to Linux, there are scripts to enroll in the ESU, but unfortunately the local account script stopped working on the one I used. Have not tested massgravel's. Other options are to get Win 10 LTSC, or keep your system disconnected from the Internet.

An aside: My main desktop is Linux but I am currently trying Winboat to get the last piece of my hardware dependence off (my 20 year old DAC and rocksmith 2014) to work. Then, I can finally nuke Windows off of my secondary laptop because I'm sure as hell not giving it Win 11.

[–] potajito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My dude just get a compatible dac (I use focusrite scarlet) and play rocksmith with Proton flawlessly

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe as a Christmas gift to myself. My current one is an EIE pro that came with my guitar second hand. The linux "driver" only sort of works.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

get the last piece of my hardware dependence off...my 20 year old DAC

The $9 Apple DAC is unironically good. I can confirm it is plug-and-play with Mint.

Edit: To be clear, it is good if you just need an audio output (the core feature of a DAC). If you want crazy DAC features, it clearly isn't it.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You can, and without microsoft pushing malware onto your system with out your consent your chances of getting hacked are probably lessened.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft account log in required.

Shhhh, no one tell them there is a free way without a Microsoft account.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is for now. Microsoft is working on closing the various loopholes.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Their always will be, because enterprises and businesses require it.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

Nah. Switching to CachyOS instead.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Windows is never free.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Nobody has worked harder in the push for Linux than Microsoft.

[–] ohshittheyknow@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago

Option 4, just install another OS that doesn't pull this BS.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

When windows XP went away I got 12 more years of updates on my old dell laptop - with Linux of course. The laptop died before 32 bit support did.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Buying a new PC this weekend, going for Linux straight up