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London’s Metropolitan Police arrested another 492 people over the weekend after a protest Saturday in Trafalgar Square, as the Starmer government accelerated its crackdown on opposition to the Gaza genocide.

The entirely peaceful protest was held to oppose the proscription of Palestine Action. It was organised by Defend Our Juries and attended by over 1,000 people. Of the arrests, 488 were for holding up signs declaring, “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action”.

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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 158 points 1 month ago (24 children)

UK is a fascist regime. Well done!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Folks who get really up in their feelings about the Trump/Harris election seem to forget that Harris was taking campaign advice from this guy. It's so easy to forget how absolutely poisoned so-called "Liberal Democracy" has become with a broad strain of fascist tendency.

On the one hand, you've got a guy who is looking to literally lay siege to cities in the US that didn't vote for him. On the opposite side of the pond, they're doing mass-arrests of anyone with a "Please Stop Killing Brown People" bumper sticker. And in the middle, a sea of smug dipshits posting "You got what you voted for".

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Liberals will ALWAYS end up siding with the Fascists to try to suppress the Left. Happened in Germany in the 1930s, and the dumbass liberals eventually ended up lined up against the same walls the communists and socialists were lined up against. If you're a liberal today and defending this fascist suppression against Palestine Action: you're next.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Happened in Germany in the 1930s

Happened in the 1910s, even. Hence the old quip about Bernie Sanders killing Rosa Luxemburg.

dumbass liberals eventually ended up lined up against the same walls the communists and socialists were lined up against

Or marched out into the snows of Russia to seize more Lebensraum for the imperial core. Or just bombed to death in Dresden or Berlin when the front lines collapsed.

If you’re a liberal today and defending this fascist suppression against Palestine Action: you’re next.

The hard math of living in a fascist state is standing up and getting shot today or ducking and hiding in hopes you won't get shot tomorrow.

Liberals made their bed back in 2009. We're all just living in the aftermath.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And then there's the Americans, for whom literally everything has to be about America in some way or another.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Have you seen their fiction? Even in sci-fi, they're the center of the fucking universe. Galactic Space Empire HQ, located in NYC/LA/San Francisco of course.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean... After the USSR fell, the US was the only major player in space for like 25 years, until China finally started to dabble the last few years.

It's not necessarily an ego stroke to extrapolate from that point.

But also, the media is targeted at American viewers. Of course they're going to use familiar cities.

Do you also complain that doctor who, despite being able to travel anywhere in the both the universe AND time, lands in modern day UK so often?

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's a funny looking labour government you got there UK.

How did you guys go from Corbyn to this? Is it so hard to have a labour party leader that doesn't back Israel or Russia?

[–] Small_Quasar@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Starmer is terrified of Reform. So he's taken the really smart stance of pulling Labour to the right to court a demographic that would never vote Labour anyway, and in the meantime utterly piss off his core base.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This almost always fails and only ends up moving the country average to right and make extreme right seem more mild.

Also I don't think right wing voters have that strong an opinion on Israel. This is more likely zionist lobbies pulling some of Starmer's strings.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

A campaign by Israeli-backed British Jewish groups of anti-semitism slanders against Corbyn (so extreme that at one point a Jewish Holocaust Survivor was deemed an anti-semite to get at Corbyn by association) toppled him down from Labour Party leadership, to be replaced by these types, who as soon as they got control of the Labour Party started purging it of people who had voiced Leftwing ideas and support for Corbyn.

Essentially Labour was emptied from the inside and its shell was filled with supporters of a foreign ethno-Fascist regime.

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[–] verdi@feddit.org 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

90% chance the mossad has a bunch of videos of Starmer and his cabinet diddling kids, or engaging in animality with pigs, whatever is the depravity du jour was in his heyday.

Meanwhile the nazis march against london with Stephen Yaxley-Lennon at the helm. 0 actual enforcement. The funniest part is Yaxley-Lennon was invited by an israeli minister to visit Israel...

Can you imagine travelling back to 1943 and telling people in the camps that their sacrifice would be the fertilizer of a new wave of the same ideological poison that deprived them of dignity and life. This is just heartbreaking... What's even the point of resisting anymore?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Friendly reminder indeed that Epstein was likely a Mossad asset and there are likely more like him.

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Resisting tyranny is how everything good in the world is possible. The way to have lives worth living is to defeat tyrants and their ideologies. We defeated the Nazis but not fascism. Now we have to defeat the ideological descendants of the Nazis.

If we don't defeat fascism, neoliberalism, and capitalism now the turn around time for the next fascist movement will be measured in years not decades. We have seen as much with the Biden administration. They failed to meaningfully hold Trump and MAGA to account for the insurrection or fundamentally fix the underling systemic issues that they are symptoms of and now we are living under fascist rule.

We don't have dignified lives or liberal democracies to go back to. The way to get something better is with socialist democracies where workers own corporations and the political process. Until then it's liberty or death. We benefited from a free democracy. If anyone is to enjoy that again we must resist now and until we are all free.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is so self defeating... Palestine Action should have never been declared a "terrorist organization" in the same category as Al Qaeda and Daesh. People see right through that and it causes a backlash. Nd the UK government doubling down on the backlash creates even more backlash. I mean anyone can see that at this point that the government has lost the political battle on this one and is just chugging through due to the sunk cost fallacy. This is only paving the way for the Right to do a comeback. Fucking centrist liberals man, god damn.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (24 children)

At what point are people going to riot?

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[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I don't support the UK crackdown on peaceful protesters, but this wsws.org is a de-facto Chinese propaganda medium. That's not a good source.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 11 points 1 month ago

It's a good source if it reports on the fascist behaviors of the UK government. With this trend, how long do you think western media will be able to report freely on this stuff?

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[–] twinklefruit@lemmings.world 35 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Why do Zionists have so much control outside of Israel?

What the fuck is wrong with the West? Don't tell me /pol/ was right...

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Israel is key to western imperialist ambitions in the Middle East. The relationship between zionists and the west is in the same “too big to fail” category that protected the criminal bankers who left so many destitute in 2008. For capitalism’s true believers, it is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Historically, British Zionism has been fundamentally tied to English supremacism and antisemitism.

Essentially, Israel is the UK's "not quite final solution" to the "problem" of Jews living in Britain - a place to dump all the Jews so England can be more ethnically pure.

This is public information - see the history of Zionism in Britain on wikipedia. The lesson ethnonationalists took from the holocaust - with Hitler publicly bemoaning he had no place to dump Jews forcing him into his final solution - was that every ethnicity needed their own homeland.

The story is similar for USAmerican white supremacists and ethic supremacists across Europe. If Israel collapsed, millions of Jews would flee to Europe and the US, and that's terrible if you're an antisemite.

But for the past 80 years, publicly admitting you're doing it for antisemitic or even ethnic supremacist reasons has been a faux pas, so there has been a whole literary genre of dogwhistles and motivated reasoning, combined with weaponizing of the "antisemitic" label, resulting in an intentionally opaque mess of justifications.

So then, as icing on the cake, the observation that this is a mess has been brilliantly co-opted by the propagandists through antisemitic conspiracy theory: Don't look behind the curtain, look at the Jewish boogeyman projected onto the curtain.

And of course capitalism also plays into this, but the capitalist elite has always been quite generous towards their fellow elites. "Socialism for the rich" is not just a turn of phrase, a lot of billionaires lost good money in the 2008 financial crisis bailout.

Golden parachutes, positions for each other's nepo babies, charity balls for trophy wives' pet projects, etc. - Despite capitalism supposedly being about profit maximization, the elites don't eat their own. They will let their portfolio burn billions to help each other out. But who is the in-group?

Surprise - it's white supremacists again. It's Epstein, Trump, Musk, the Kochs, the Waltons, the Clintons, the Kennedys, the British royals, etc. Nonwhites can definitely get invited to the cookout - Obama, Oprah, Rothschilds, etc. - but they are always peripheral and more easily cast out.

It's not a cabal, it's a community. Trump was the village idiot but his talent for demagoguery made him the hero of the town. White supremacy isn't a nefarious grand scheme, it's just a common belief that affects their friendships, their worldview, and their choices. Multiculturalism was a fun idea that helped destroy unions but now that people are angry it's easiest to fall back on the people you know (if you know what I mean). Bailouts are helping friends through tough times.

And Israel? Israel is a lightning rod. Anti-elitism can be tainted with antisemitism, ethnic supremacy is legitimized by their existence as a supposed solution to antisemitism while criticism of it isn't directed at white supremacy, anti-imperialism can be externalized, Islamophobia is sustained to justify oil wars, the military-industrial guys have a nice playing ground, the news can always look away from coups and neocolonial violence elsewhere, etc.

So that's the world - a bunch of rich white guys using Jews as a scapegoat for their own fuckery. Same as the past 1800 years, really.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (10 children)

not tongo full tinfoil, but this is beyond just lobbying.

I'm assuming there's lots of blackmail involved

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 month ago

What in the fascist UK fuck.

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There you go, Trump. There's your 51st state.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

As an American, it's super disheartening to read stories about European governments being fascist assholes as well. It's nice to imagine there's somewhere to go to escape it.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

nah. he lacks the warmth of a cunt.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

Of the arrests, 488 were for holding up signs declaring, “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action”.

what the fuck?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  1. Isn't this fucking idiot a human rights lawyer? People have a right to protest

  2. This is why I fucking left. Oh yeah, the tories are a shitshow. Oh look, their replacements are barely better.

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[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago

V for Vendetta is starting to look more like prophecy than fiction...

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Reform UK will have a hard time catching up with Labour in the fascism League.

[–] FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

Wow. Fuck that.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

And remember this is from the "left" party in the UK.

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