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[–] LowtierComputer@feddit.org 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Europe is so sadly stuck on Whatsapp it pisses me off.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I know it's a pipe dream, but what if WhatsApp chooses to not compromise their encryption either. You'd have chat control but no chatting. Would be kinda interesting to see.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 16 points 4 months ago

WhatsApp is owned by Facebook. They will whine and do whatever makes them the most money at any particular time.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Won’t everyone just go back to using PGP on-device?

[–] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I apologise for my ignorance in advance... but won't whoever runs it be forced to hand over the decription? I mean chat control is about the end of encryption. Regardless of the choice of encryption.

Pen and paper and the post office are gonna have a resurgence. Want some private stuff sent to someone? Put it on an envelope and glue that shit shut! Then mail it.

I'm starting to feel my age. I'm getting tired of the fight to stay on top of it all. I'm going more and more analog each year.

"Meshtastic" would've sounded great to me 10 years ago. Now I'm like... they'll ban it in no time. But it would be nice to get some old pirate radio like network revolution against the current internet going.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hear you about going back to analog. The problem in the States is that Republicans have managed to gut the postal service and drive up its prices so that normal people can’t afford it. Electronic communication is all they can afford.

PGP encrypts and decrypts locally. Your private keys never leave your device. Public keys are meant to be shared widely, but without the private key, anyone who intercepts the message has exactly a block of encrypted text and no way to read it.

[–] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, thank you very much for explaining that. I apologised for my ignorance in advance because I didn't know what was the difference in the encryption process regarding PGP.

Now we just have to know if they get Chat Control in motion in the EU if they will ban PGP as an encryption method. The UK enacted the child safety's act and VPN usage exploded. So they enforced age verification on VPN as well. We're in a stronghold moment all over the world, where the powers are overreaching and "strangling" people's rights and social freedoms.

But thank you again for the clarification.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

No worries. It’s been a while since I saw anyone talking about PGP or GPG (the FOSS version).

I think that the EU would have to ban the entire internet if they banned public key encryption. And that would make their corporations very sad.

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, what is everyone's opinion on RCS-Chat? I'm trying it out with a good friend of mine and the functions are so much better, plus (in our case at least) it's e2ee. I especially love the transcribed voice messages, because fuck listening to 3 minutes of blabbering when I can simply read it in a fraction of the time.

[–] bvoigtlaender@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it’s probably the best solution there is (if there would not be a mandatory phone number you have to give) But gatekeepers do what they do best :(. It feels off to advocate for it though after already bringing many to Signal.

It is good to have an alternative, but having to need one would also mean that it’s has been already compromised by the EU. :)