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"Thanks to our community for the frank feedback on Bloodlines 2 and the Premium Edition. That feedback made it clear: Lasombra and Toreador belong in the base game, so that is what we are doing," said Marco Behrmann, White Wolf Executive Vice President and Bloodlines 2 Executive Producer.

"Sorry we couldn't get away with it" vibes

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Realistically, this game's got bigger problems than what its DLC strategy is.

[–] simple@piefed.social 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for the reviews to see if it's another Redfall

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From the gameplay footage, it looks like a studio that's only ever made walking simulators before is making their take on Dishonored. Maybe that'll be pretty good, but I'd be surprised. What it certainly isn't is an RPG that's anything like Bloodlines 1, lol.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's largely what the pre release reviewers said, too. It's light on RPG elements but feels like Dishonored. They didn't say it was bad, just unexpected and a different kind of game than the first.

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I was expecting an (action-oriented) RPG and it's a stealth game instead 🫤 I'm gonna "wish-unlist" it 😞

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mind elaborating/telling me the problems? Ive been wanting to try the game but the dlc crap made me wait at least until the clans were added to base lol

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you've played the first game, watch their video demo of some gameplay. They're just not even similar. It's bold to call this a sequel for how little they have in common.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love VTMB, but the gameplay was never the highlight, it was always the writing. If the story and characters are well written and it ties into VTMB1 somehow, I'll consider the title justified. The writing is a pretty high bar, though.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I don't consider it so much as the combat should be better or the writing should be good, but the fact that it's just a very different style of game altogether. There will be nothing like the character sheet from the first game in this new one, I'll wager, nor the RPG mechanics that go along with that. Making that kind of game is even further outside the wheelhouse of the developer making this new one, so it would be an even taller order. It's not often that a sequel to a game changes genre or subgenre, but it's not usually a welcome change. There was only one game in the Zelda series like Zelda II, after all.

[–] arudesalad@piefed.ca 57 points 2 months ago

"Sorry we couldn't get away with it" vibes

The publisher is paradox isn't it? They've done this with nearly all of their recent games.

The only difference is that the games they published are left to die after the backlash and the games developed in house continue to be developed but with a slightly less invasive dlc policy for a few months.

[–] ratten@lemmings.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"After backlash," of course.

You heard it here first, folks. Businesses will try to fuck you over if they can get away with it.

It has nothing to do about keeping the lights on.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Everyone knows that.

But, at the very least we should be congratulatory on this - it's bad that clans were contained to DLC in the first place and Paradox needed a good kick, but since they've been pliable we should give them a pavlovian pat on the head.

If you leave no room for 'rehabilitation' there is no reason to try to do better.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

First time? Paradox games are the definition of learned helplessness. This game will be a dlc shitfest in time, just like all of their other scammy games. They just learned to not announce it ahead of time with this IP.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Very much so sorry we couldn't get away with it. This time.

They and other publishers will inevitably try this Capcom crap again so don't reward them with sales for "apologizing" for behavior that they shouldn't have done in the first place.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

If the game is good I'll buy it, if it isn't I won't. Fuck everyone who had a say in the original dlc decision but I'm not gonna pass up on a decent title if they manage to deliver.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I'll wait. Experience shows that the next dick move will come soon after.

I have no problem at this point to wait another two or three years.

[–] shani66@ani.social 9 points 2 months ago

Okay the barest minimum possible has been achieved, now bring back hardsuit and make a game worthy of its sire.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Wow, great job team, now add more than the game from 2004, thx.