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[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Literally. the fact that nobody talks about the school shooting that happened IN THE EXACT SAME DAY, is maddening af.

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My prediction is that those who would normally seek the infamy that school shooters used to receive will see the amount of attention people have given this case and the healthcare CEO's murder and murdering public figures will become the new trend.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yep there's a whole underground movement of people that are basically pro-school shooting online. They consider themselves part of the lineage that started with the Columbine shooters. It's sick shit, but nobody has done a damned thing to tamper down on it and like other fringe groups they've found each other online and are networking.

Media coverage about school shooters became somewhat better in that they at least don't get into every seedy detail about the lives of the killers, but this other type of killer has been seeing a different type of coverage entirely. It stands to reason that they'll start to see this as the better path toward infamy.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was reading about those groups and they seem to be an intentional project by neonazis more than a genuine underground movement. The movement is actually a front for drawing in and weaponizing people, mostly lonely and depressed children.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trying to trigger a race war? Could be.

Edit: their stupid little race war which never happens because most people aren't as racist as they are

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This doesn't surprise me. I spent time on 4chan years ago and saw some extremely disturbing opinions and conversations. I could definitely see how mentally disturbed individuals could find each other in forums or channels and start an underground movement. I've always thought that these types of online movements were psyop campaigns either by Russia or another foreign country to cause American unrest.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 7 points 2 months ago

I'll take it.

Trolley problem right here. I want to save the group of kids, every time.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

So, finally some good news.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's some Lemmy commenters who say "Well Kirk was a big deal where we get school shootings every day" and it's fucking maddening.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Well that’s exactly why this is getting so much attention.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Moved on by now" here means "probably wouldn't even have heard about it." At least we can take comfort knowing that, unlike the first-grader, Charlie would've surely been proud to know he was a sacrifice on the altar of the Second Amendment.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Matthew Silverstone and another minor remain hospitalized, they were both shot at school the same day as Kirk. Their attacker was a right wing radicalized 16 year old who followed white supremicist ideology. I will not name said person. Only that they were following neo-nazis white supremacists and that may be reflected in who they chose to target. But not a peep anywhere and it appears no updates in a few days.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the gop cant publicize, or report on mass shooters being republicans, because they wont be able to create a narrative shooter=leftist, trans person.

thats why they are astroturfing the right wingeer groyper that shot a charlie kirk as a trans-loving leftist.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bunch of kids died right after and conservatives shrugged and kept talking about Kirk

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

news needs a distraction from epstein files.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

1st grader???????

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 15 points 2 months ago

The left has given Mr Kirk the thoughts and prayers he deserved.

I don't understand what else do they want?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago

trump already moved on, why are the supporters so fixated on KIRK. he already changed the subject to his glorious ballroom construction.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Then start talking about how we need gun control, they will take their usual position

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The reason everyone would have moved on already is because, by now, an identical crime would have already occurred somewhere else, all part of the tide of violence perpetrated by those who continue to turn a blind eye to mental illness and access to weapons of mass-casualty (because, make no mistake, it is not solely those who pulled a trigger who are responsible for those deaths). If america is going to move on, then someone would need to do this again and again, in a neverending cascade of Nazis being shot with ruthless efficiency, just like what happens to our children. Then, surely, the country will just move on to the next tragedy with thoughts and prayers, like they do with school shootings, right?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

Thoughts and prayers

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 months ago

How many kids equals one Kirk?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Well ya, that would have just been a Tuesday.

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've moved on. Who gives a fuck

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

trump already moved on the moment he wasnt useful anymore.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm more disappointed than anything. I'm disappointed that he got killed the way he did. I'm disappointed that the left cheered for it. I'm disappointed the right treated him as if he was Jesus. I'm disappointed that school shootings have become so normalized. However, nothing disappoints me more than knowing that nothing is going change because my fellow Americans don't give a fuck about all this needless violence.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

i give left a pass, when the right have been cheering every time a democrat is shot, or murdered, or a black executed by the police. Also someone like charlie kirk should not be honored, he helped spread and violence in millions of young americans, its stepping stone to moving further right than he is.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If you're condemning and condoning the same behavior based on whether or not you like/agree with the person, then you don't believe in the underlying principle at all. Simple put, you care more about your political team getting one in on the other team than maintaining a civil society.

[–] thunder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I give a fuck about gun violence, but I live in a red state that is gerrymandered to hell and with all kinds of voter suppression. What can I do about it?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Get in touch with your local activist groups, and help them organize meaningful opposition.