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Why can't you make a cheap EV for people who want to be able to throw a couple sheets of plywood in the back? These tiny beds are borderline useless.
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Because performative pickups are lifestyle items in North America.
Stealing "performative pickup"
The other common term is 'pavement princess'.
Your 145k luxury heavy duty crewcab truck that spends most of its time sitting on the pavement in your driveway, because gas mileage is terrible, and you're also terrified of using your truck... as a truck, ie, hauling loads, going a bit offroad or into a construction site... because that could superficially damage your princess.
There are actually a good number of 'car guys' who fucking hate these things, and also even advocate for trains/public transit/bike lanes etc. ... because they will actually reduce traffic, which will make driving more enjoyable overall, and also lessen the amount of people on the road who cannot afford to maintain their dangerous shitboxes, that are more likely to be in an accident because of their state of disrepair.
The people buying these aren’t really using them as a truck. They use them to go get groceries and pick up a coffee. Idiots.
well i like to get a coffee too. after i pick up a few 8x4 sheets of whatever i’m working with this week.
I whole heartedly agree. Maybe it’s like women’s clothes and getting dresses with pockets, so they can sell you the accessories? bed extender
Because it’s not a real truck, it’s unibody construction.
Im uninformed about this. Why cant a truck with a unibody have a bigger bed
you put in a bigger bed and customers will try to load it up and bend the unibody frame. you overload your ladder frame pickup and you might damage the bed or the tires but aren't likely to render the entire vehicle unsafe.
ladder frame is capable of supporting much more weight than any unibody due to the design that separates load bearing concerns from body concerns.
Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation
Because a bed made of, and supported by just sheet metal can’t have the same strength as a bed that is supported by essentially 6” steel girders.
preach. id have been electric years ago if they made a full bed.
I just want an electric version of a Honda fit...
Give me an updated Subaru Baja. Or a other brands that make Utes I see in Australia. Or a Kei truck with actual usable space and a bed that can fit a piece of plywood.
Fuck the automakers that ruined this country.
Seriously, it's such a good car it just needs an electric version
So like a Chevy bolt or kona ev? Or do you mean specifically honda?
Not an SUV or a crossover. I want a compact car like a Civic or a Corolla. Like a VW e-Golf, or the Ford Focus EV, but that's as affordable as a standard compact car with a good range.
Hydrogen fuel cells would be a great alternative to electric batteries, and you can refuel in minutes. Or if you're worried about the hydrogen, how about solid state batteries that allow fast charging to 80% in minutes and are much safer? What's the hold up? Are they just trying to get rid of their existing battery stock?
Who knows. But hydrogen seems like a step back. Faster charge speeds would be nice, but personally, the charge speeds have not negatively impacted me. The ioniq 5 charges plenty fast for my use cases
I've had an EV for 6 years and done many road trips. I recently bought a class b camper van which has replaced the car for road trips.
I find that my stops are often longer with the van because I can't multi-task. With the car, I plug in, take the dog to piss/crap/stretch, and then I go to the bathroom and possibly get something to eat drink.
With the van its all serial and pump gas, walk dog, pee adds up to a 20 to 30 minute stop anyways.
Why is hydrogen a step back?
The infrastructure required to support it is vastly more complex & expensive than liquid fuel infrastructure, and it has poor energy density.
It's actually made on site. All you need is water and electricity. There was a pilot program in Québec city for the Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel cell car and it was generated right on site.
For me personally, the idea of needing to go to a station to fill up at a high cost to run an electric motor seems like added complexity when I can just plug in at home and not bother with that, and save a bunch of money for the convenience.
And also, we have no efficient way to produce hydrogen...that doesn't start with hydrocarbons. Storage is also an issue. At that point it isn't any better than batteries, and allows us to "transition" from fossil fuels with this intermediate step, like with methane.
I'm in this boat and got a bolt, though I wish it were lower. And that they kept making it.
Fuck that, how about $150k city buses? Or $30k delivery vans? Or $20,000 hatchbacks? Half the pickups on the roads seem to be for feels not work.
They are Gender affirming vehicles
They even get bottom surgery to add nuts 🤷
Ha ha, F150 lightning announced at 40k, cheapest model is actually 50k.
If it has a 65"+ bed, I'm gonna feel stupid having a Lightning. But if it's another crew cab and it has the footprint of a Maverick, it probably won't.
Fuck that, we want good public transport! No oversized cars that are a danger to children and adults alike!
Sure, but I still need a vehicle to get to the closest stop and ride. It would be nice to have a truck for my weekend projects when I’m not commuting.
If you need a vehicle to get to public transit, that's terrible public transit.
That's how it is in most of America as well as some areas of Europe and Asia. Also disabled people exist.
FYI, public transit IS inherently more disability friendly. We have level steps, escalators everywhere, and so on. Can't say that cars are disability friendly when they are the perfect vehicles to create them. Most traffic deaths occur by car - and even per capita, they're pretty dang deadly.
And most deaths are CAUSED by the car driver being reckless and plowing like a terrorist into pedestrians and bicyclists. Which is why we must make it safe for the latter.
I'm aware. But how is the disabled person going to get there if they don't live close enough. The conversation was on park and ride.
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