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Has anyone else noticed this, across the fediverse, Lemmy specifically. A lot of new users, but also a lot of first posts that are very inflammatory/rage baity.

Do we have another legit influx of new users? Or do we just have some bad actors trying to stir the pot? Or maybe I'm imagining it.

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[–] Schwim@lemmy.zip 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's an uptick, it's been around for as long as I've used the Fediverse.

I've never understood the mindset that this social site is made up of a different mix of personalities than any other. It's not. There's very nice people here and there's very mean people here. Often, the very nice are quiet so you won't always notice them but the meanest are usually very outspoken and everyone comes across something left by them. Hatred, ignorance and toxicity is not something that's left at the door of the fediverse.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 10 months ago

We ought to moderate well and do better than elsewhere though. Well, at least I would hope that users would gravitate towards instances that moderate their users better, so we get more civil behavior.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or do we just have some bad actors trying to stir the pot?

Yes.

People are hostile idiots sometimes, also, so that doesn't help. But yes, people are definitely trying to stir up deliberate ballache for whatever weird reasons of their own.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Leaving the 3 biggest news comms has been one of the best things I've done recently.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] IanTwenty@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] dyslexicdainbroner@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Bots originating in russa, china, etc, etc spreading social unrest

Those countries want to divide us and it’s working

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 10 months ago

That's true in most places, but until now it's been relatively quiet I'm here on the fediverse

[–] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

What has ended up happening in the replies to this comment is exactly what OP was talking about.

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[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I haven't, but then again I don't subscribe to News or Politics communities.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

The way to go

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing out of the ordinary personally.

Meta communities are prompt to drama, but that's the usual.

Edit: I just remember I've seen a few one-day account posting obvious ragebait. That usually gets removed quickly.

Edit2: example https://lemmy.world/post/33629252

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah in my small areas of the fedi, im not seeing any inflammatory posts. Of course there's like dozens of us compared to you all, but its a happy balance.

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes have noticed more rage bait. Also more and more culture wars in comments. Still not anywhere near as bad as reddit.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I used to see new accounts with weird names posting long AMAs in the !askmeanything@lemmy.ca community.

Are those LLM bots or are they real users?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 10 months ago

Unsure personally, but I'm keeping an eye on it personally

[–] 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a fairly new user to lemmy I have found that the community can be pretty brutal and there are quite a lot of set things that are frowned upon. Windows always gets a lot of abuse, but for me here in the UK the amount of Mac and Linux users is miniscule, for example... yet Windows is frowned upon greatly. Sp whilst not raging, it is deffo anti a fair few things. I know it is to be expected as it is a fairly technical things to use lemmy/piefed/fediverse but it still makes me wince. Like everything these days, the less passionate just don't post any more so it does bring out some strong responses

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 10 months ago

I've been in the nerdy tech space for decades now and I will never understand how these people expect things like Linux to take charge while they're also being the most gatekeepy and arrogant people. Sure, I'd love folks to try it out, but I'm not going to demonize them either for not. I also have done tech support and there are the people where I just say "Nope, get a mac" because otherwise I will be the person that they go and demand free support from every week.

There's passion, but then there's a line that is too often crossed that goes into ego and selfishness, and I think Lemmy just breeds that.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Definitely. Most of the time communities are friendly and supportive - but I've noticed too that there are users who seem deliberately scratchy and saying things that are looking to provoke and who become fizzy if they're challenged in any way about something they've said. I wondered if it's much younger users who are coming from other places having picked up the "fight me" attititude there.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 10 months ago

I think that's why it becomes so noticeable - it's usually so calm and chill that when someone comes in to stir the pot it's so obvious

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 7 points 10 months ago

Or is the world just pissed about the state of things?

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Not inflammatory, but I've noticed some new users who come only to do self promotion, without engaging in anyting else in the platform. Mostly in art related comms but also a couple trying to promote a shady website or the like. Even though my account is new I've been browsing for a good while and dislike people that are only looking for an audience not a community.

[–] foliumcreations@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do some self promotion, although I try to; 1: only post in relevant forums. 2: also engage outside of my own posts an then not talk about said posts.(this time is an exception but its kind of a meta discussion.)

Due to the nature of the fedivers what I post on mastodon and pixelfed might get federated on to Lemmy, which unfortunately might give the appearance of spamming, I'm aware of this but I don't see a way around that. And lastly. I don't think my videos on Peertube would get any views unless I post them outside of peertube since there is no real algorithm or good discovery functions across the instances. But I'm open to being in the wrong here.

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And to clarify, self promo is ok! My complaint is about the ones who wouldn't even see this post (or any other post for the matter), much less reply to it. They just take up space and do not give anything of value back. Imo. As the fediverse grows it's bound to happen, it just pisses me off.

[–] foliumcreations@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not saying it will be the solution but, positive reinforcement for those who behave, mixed with not interacting with those that only spam would probably get some to loose interest. And perhaps some mod rules.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 10 months ago

Interesting, I haven't noticed this but I'll keep an eye out on accounts

[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 1 points 10 months ago

FWIW, in my feeds that is on the same level as it was for some time now

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Im new but ive noticed a ton of slop news is spammed by the same handful of accounts only. None of the articles add anything new or provide a unique perspective. Then its spammed over all the news subs. Its annoying but im not a mod what can i do.

I think that slop news posts are intentionally inflammatory because they add no new information and only seek to evoke an emotional reaction.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago

Either block the user or the community.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you keep out of Political Communities then you may not see them.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This has been in the Ask communities unfortunately

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah but the toxicity is still negligible, but I do get your point.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cool new avatar!

We try to keep an eye about those posts on !ask@piefed.social

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 10 months ago

Thank you! After Admiral Patrick left I felt like there was a void here, introducing Captain Swift!

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 4 points 10 months ago

I've seen one Dunno about a large influx. But it didn't last long.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Intentionally inflammatory posts? I haven't noticed an uptick, honestly. Doesn't mean there isn't one and doesn't mean I won't notice now that you posted it.

But I will say that I've basically stopped checking my notifications because all of a sudden it seems like almost every time I go in there, I've got at least one insufferable, hostile, negative, etc response or message in there. It didn't used to be that way.

Mostly I assume we must've recently gotten an influx of new users from Reddit or someplace similarly toxic. Things usually get a bit unfortunate for a time when that happens.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

Look up Eternal September on Wikipedia.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've noticed more debatelords (only in large communities, like c/technology), not sure they will stay if we don't feed them and the more debatelordy instances just simply ban them.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 10 months ago

Any influx of new users that appear to be valid human meat popsicles should be the new normal. Would you like to create a downloadable zip file of a codebase that demonstrates this?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

Only abouts Arch Linix users. :)

[–] buffalobuffalo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, it's not new. I noticed things were far more hostile than my reddit experience from the moment i got on Lemmy. Maybe it's because I unsubscribed from all the toxic places on Reddit (i promise they exist) but I browse /all here since it's too quiet otherwise.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it matters community to community - but I don't disagree with you. Personally, I suggest curating a list of communities that you like and subscribing to them. It's been much more pleasant having that than the barrage of All.

[–] buffalobuffalo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, guess I'm just worried about missing out on cool new communities popping up. Almost every post in all is from a different community.

I had a list of 90 active cat picture subreddits. Wish we had even a fraction of that here.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 10 months ago

Fair, I usually poke into All every once in a while to see if there's anything new, and !communitypromo@lemmy.ca is usually pretty good at letting folks know too

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago

This is not 90 active cat picture subreddits but here is a begining for you: https://tarte.nuage-libre.fr/topic/detente/animaux

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