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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In 2022, Dem strategist Simon Rosenberg flatly asserted that there would be no "red wave" and the Dems would overperform expectations.

Nate Silver said the only way Rosenberg could come to that conclusion was that he'd been ingesting "hopium."

Rosenberg was right. Silver was wrong (though he'll die before admitting it).

Then Rosenberg started The Hopium Chronicles, which I suggest you read

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Party strategists always say their party is going to do well. It’s part of their job. I don’t think this is particularly meaningful, unless you think there’s some particular methodology he has access to that’s better than Silver’s.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

His methodology was better since he was right and Silver was wrong.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is a perfectly succinct, textbook example of Outcome Bias.

Betting $1 with a 1 in 3 chance to win $2 is objectively a bad idea; the odds are against you. It doesn't cease to be a bad idea if you happen to win the $2 after 1 bet.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing like one person being right and another being wrong in bringing the amateur philosophers out.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tell me you don't understand directionally or literal numbers without telling me....

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Tell me you don't know simple English without telling me...

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump does still lead in our national average — however narrowly. But the bigger problem for Biden though is that elections in the United States aren’t determined by the popular vote.

That's a problem for all of us. If the president were elected by popular vote, Trump would never have been president.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neither would George W. Bush. Republicans have won the popular vote only once in the last 32 years, and that was Bush as the incumbent in 2004 - which wouldn't have happened had Gore been the incumbent.

This is a center-left country, with an election system that gives extreme right-wingers oversized influence.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This far from being a left center country.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The left is larger than the right, here. How does that make it not a center-left country? We're sure as hell not a right-wing country, and much of our government is an accident of antiquated and stupid systems, not a true reflection of the people.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -2 points 2 years ago

Those that think they are on the left is larger. When they support politicians viewed around the world as right wing, they too are right wing

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's all statistics. It means that if we ran the 2024 election millions of times in his model, Trump would win more than Biden. But we will only get one shot, so the number is kind of useless.

I was watching the Mets game this weekend on ESPN, and they were ahead of the Cubs by a few runs. ESPN has a tracker that estimates "Win Probability" and their model gave the Mets a 75% chance to win. But have you seen the Mets this year? They've blown a bunch of games late. Every Mets fan watching knew that their bullpen wasn't good enough to merit that rating.

The Mets did end up winning that game. (Thanks, Grimace.) But that doesn't change the fact that no matter what math is behind their win prediction model, it just doesn't feel right to apply statistics like that to one-off events.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I predict people will get sick of that shit. Especially when they start branding it as AI-driven.

Edit: with the exception of that football-predicting octopus. He’s cool.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)