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[–] drekly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The developer worked his ass off to repurpose his app to Lemmy for us.

I was more than happy to pay for his time. Hard work deserves reward. If people aren't going to pay him and use the free version, which you're welcome to, then he makes his money from ads (which pay fuck-all)

You're just a bunch of cheapskates who want to be entertained for nothing.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

ya went a little too far at the end there. nothing wrong with not wanting to pay a subscription fee lol. its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Complaining about a $20 purchase you don't have to make qualifies for "cheapskate" I think. Simply not purchasing it, or not wanting to purchase it, is fine. The difference is entitlement.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I think the point of this post was the lack of regional pricing, so for them it is not a $20 purchase.

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

Do you think professional independent developers shouldn't be paid for their work? Do you think this kind of development is effortless?

I don't understand why people keep parroting this. The app is free. It's a professionally developed app, where the quality tradeoff is either ads (which can be blocked) or your choice of ad removal payments.

This isn't some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off. People begged him to make a version for Lemmy, and he did. He deserves to be paid for the hours and work he put in to make it happen. You can't make an app if you can't buy food or pay rent.

And if you don't like that, then don't use it. He's never pressured users into paying, and he's never suggested everyone on Lemmy should just send him money. He isn't even spamming posts advertising the app, enthusiastic users are.

Why is everyone so upset?

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not the one who's upset. Look at the guy I replied to. I'm literally not using the app and it's not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I'm literally just saying I'm not a cheapskate because I'm not using your paid alternative.

[–] tigull@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is everyone so upset?

You know why, it's because in the eyes of Lemmy users who have been here all along, launch of Sync is the start of their eternal September. I moved to reddit back in 2010 as a Digg refugee after the infamous redesign, I saw much of the same back then (down to the plethora of programming and Linux memes).

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sync isn't trying to replace all Lemmy frontends or other FOSS apps, it's trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

People just find reasons to be upset, I swear.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

it’s trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

Ads and all 🤣

[–] jebuz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's the reason lemmy is struggling, it's mainly Linux gatekeepers and foss elitists. Along with lemmy needing a slight learning period, the community just spews toxic shit relentlessly.

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jebuz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No. Elitists are the ones who are elitists. They just chose FOSS as their high horse to be holier than though. To beat the vegan horse I'm going to use Linux users as an example.

Anytime anyone irl talks about Linux it's not really about how great Linux has met their needs. It's usually about how great it is that it isn't windows.

[–] SwamiVT@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The major issue for some is regional pricing. Where I'm from lifetime costs around $110 in regional currency

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He doesn't deserve any reward for making spyware/adware garbage. His app is at odds with the ethos of lemmy. Fuck your ad hominem.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lol spyware 🤣🤣

Do you work for free?

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@drekly @Plswrk, nobody needs to work for free, but creating incommings by spying the user to sell his data to third party isn't an acceptable way to gain money. There are a lot of methodes to gain money in the network, but with surveillance advertising spyware is the worse and with big risks for the user, which can't control where his personal data ends up.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He just put ads in his app mate. He's not in the CIA

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@drekly, simple ads are not a problem, if they are based on the content of the page and not based on user logs. Ads as is only can be somewhat annoying if there a lot in the page or they appears in the middle of a concert in YT, but no are a risk for the user privacy, no more than a commercial poster in the street or an ad in TV. As with all, bad the abuse. Years ago you saw 1-2 banners in a page, but novadays you must seek the webcontent between advertisings, banners, cookieadvices and popups

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 2 years ago

@drekly, no ok, blocking trackers is legit selfdefense, but also the abuse of ads, blocking these also is needed. Only it isn't a problem when a web shows an banner image or two, this can be tolerated, but not the abuse of ads currently and annoying popups, it is legit to block this crap.

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You can maneuver all you want, it is spyware. My hobby work is free. I don't track my users nor do I inundate them with ads. I believe that's unethical.

My work work is not available for free in any capacity whatsoever.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Good job you're not using an android phone so it doesn't matter!

It's his full time job, so his "work work " isn't free in any capacity either, you either pay with ad revenue or you pay with $20

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

He chose to go down that path. No one forced him. It's a brain dead argument mate.

Oh and btw, it is free in some capacity. You do not have to pay to use the free version. It's literally called the fucking free version.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The free version with ads that pay the developer that everyone's losing their minds over like they've never seen an advert before.

[–] Plswrk@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rightfully so, because it tracks you, collects and sells your data and inundates you with ads, which is literally every single fucking thing lemmy was built to get around.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Or is it just a continuation of the usual Google platform. Being used on a Google phone with a Google account.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Voyager is free and the pwa feels close to a native app.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'm just happy we have all of these choices.

The FOSS apps are fantastic already and Sync is there if you want that too.

[–] Pickle_Jr@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

I don't understand the people hating on Sync just as much as I don't understand the people hating posts criticizing sync.

It's an app. Let people use what they want to use lmao. Growth for Lemmy is a good thing regardless

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All the self righteousness of lemmy is strange.

There's not just better opinions, even small decisions are morally imbued and if someone steps out of line...

Wait, does using sync cause hurricanes? Earthquakes? Will the four big ponies of the lempocalypse arrive and snort angrily?

Otherwise, I get that a surge of people elated they have something you don't/can't have is off putting. FOMO is real.

But it doesn't need all the meme-shade.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I think this is just a reaction to the massive amount of hype we all saw yesterday.

It's a good app, but it's expensive, potentially collects your data and shares it with advertisers, and it's closed source. That's the facts of the matter so far as I can tell...

The are pros and cons here, obviously, but it's neither objectively positive or negative. With the pricetag comes unique features, like being able to tag people with notes. That's neat!

[–] meongu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just paying a visit to lemmy because Sync is out, and all I've seen is this. Lemmy is just another reddit, isn't it? People here are no better like what they believe themselves to be, still the same everywhere.

[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Yep, it's literally just another Reddit. The main benefit is that it's decentralized so it's not under the control of a single corporation, but yeah, it's mainly ex redditors on a service designed to be an alternative to Reddit

[–] Forwhombagles@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Jesus Christ guys, there's like one inline ad every 30 posts. Quit bitching