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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] mat@jlai.lu 37 points 10 months ago

It's not news and since the cloud act, it should be obvious. Also, it means impossibility to respect GDPR so I am really angered by the lazyness of EU companies considering the US like an ally, and EU not applying GDPR to fine all USA companies into oblivion

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The point is that if an American company has servers in EU, they have to give access to the US government even when the physical hosting is in Europe

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Yes, and that’s a list of European owned hosting companies, not servers in Europe

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

France also has black boxes. Don't pick France or the UK. Netherlands, Sweden, Romania and Switzerland (I know) are good European choices. Also Germany but they're already the other half of reddit let's not put all our data centers in Berlin.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m in the US and I don’t even want a US email provider for the surveillance concerns alone.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Protonmail, servers in Switzerland. Encrypted so that even proton doesn't have the key. The only downer is if you forget your login info and need to do a full account reset you also lose your encryption key as a new one is generated and old emails are unretrievable.

Good in case of attempted account take over

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Classic Swiss behavior tbh

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

Is there more on this?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

What is this in reference to? I'm not seeing anything

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

I do recall users talking about how they need to get tankies deported around the time the ICE budget passed, so this isn't even unreal.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Has this threat actually been said out loud?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Another reason to move away from all the US based fediverse instances. Last i checked lemmy.world is US based and so are many others of the top servers.

[–] aaaa@piefed.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When did you last check? I thought Lemmy.world was Netherlands-based

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy.world is 100% hosted in Europe. Of course authoritarian groups left and right fantasize about it being hosted in the US for different reasons. Generally when their extreme views are moderated. However those groups also have a lot of control and resources to spread misinformation. Not to mention experience. So I don't find it surprising that a lot of people don't realize it's not.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I checked the location through fedidb.org a while ago and it said US, but i guess that was because of cloudflare then.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes. Any sort of automated scraping needs to be double checked. It's generally fine. But for things behind distributor services like cloudflare Etc. The IP return is going to say more about the person connecting to it than the people behind it.

Quick addendum though. Cloud flare and AWS however are both in the United States if I'm not mistaken. And still vulnerable to being compromised by our fascist Administration. But the.world server itself is fine.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

There was also a growing fear that the Dubvee admin could've been presecuted for the data that was hosted on their server.