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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

For reference, this is the legal definition in France (which still allows for some shitty chocolate BTW) :

_Chocolat :

a) Désigne le produit obtenu à partir de produits de cacao et de sucres contenant, sous réserve du point b, pas moins de 35 % de matière sèche totale de cacao, dont pas moins de 18 % de beurre de cacao et pas moins de 14 % de cacao sec dégraissé._

Rough translation:
Chocolate is the product obtained from cocoa and sugars which shall contain no less (although see point b) than 35% of dry cocoa solids including 18% cocoa butter and 14% dry degreased cocoa.

Point b covers specialty chocolates, such as guanduja, etc.

Full text here(fr)

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Hershey chocolate bar is rejected as chocolate because it doesn't have enough cocoa and is contaminated with lead.

Hershey's milk chocolate contains around 11% cocoa solids, meaning it doesn't meet the European standard according to some sources. Therefore, in some European countries, Hershey's is labeled as "chocolate-flavored" or "chocolate-flavored candy bar" rather than simply "chocolate". 

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/consumer-reports-finds-more-lead-cadmium-chocolate-urges-change-hershey-2023-10-25/

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Makes me think of "American Cheese Product," "cheese" that is closer to plastic but tastes and feels like cheese.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 52 minutes ago

tastes and feels like cheese.

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[–] AskThinkingTim@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What is the objective behind selling the chocolate bars? I will have to delve deeper into the topic.

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I would presume it's because they're low in sugar. Due to exploding diabetes rates, Mexico has been making a concerted effort in the last few years to stem the consumption of sugary foods, drinks and snacks, particularly amongst kids. You can't have a cartoon mascot on a box of cereal, for example. They put big stickers over Tony the Tiger before changing the packaging completely. And the cost of snack foods has skyrocketed, making it largely unaffordable for lots of Mexican families. A bag of chips there costs more than it does in North America.

My guess is that this is part of that effort.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But has healthy food become cheaper?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

Man, I hope so.

When I worked in one of the poorest places in the US, those people literally couldn’t afford to get quality food.

They had no refrigeration so they’d walk to the dollar general and get microwave tv dinners super cheap and heat them up at my store.

You take that cheap shit away and don’t provide alternatives and those people literally starve.

I’ve heard people say, “those people just need to get a job.” When I was in my 20s I tried very hard to employ them. (My uncle owned a chain of gas stations and, despite his issues, he cares about people and tries to help where he can in his way).

One story that stands out in my mind. Dude shows up with the application, gives a great interview. Apparently social services were going to cut him off if he didn’t get a job. He worked for less than a week, then drank a half a gallon chocolate milk to cause issues with his diabetes so he could leave without confrontation via ambulance.

When I got his paperwork, he could not read or write and was scribbling random gibberish. There’s no telling how much just went out the door because he didn’t know how to handle it.

I was so angry at the person who trained him because she didn’t say anything about this. She just coldly said, “he’s an idiot. He isn’t going to last.”

The world shits on people like him. He was denied his disability over and over again.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 19 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Lol I don't know whether that's cool or uncool. "Government cheese" does sound epic though.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

It's very good.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

I've had it, its good...lardy, but good.

[–] Dr_Box@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Thats why every fast food place has some kind of cheese stuffed cheesy cheese topped cheese (thats right we put cheese in it) cheezy meal

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 81 points 17 hours ago (14 children)

Not objecting, but what is the motivation of the Mexican government to do this? Have they done similar things before?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 78 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't think they've done something exactly like this, but they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years, going as far as labeling all foods with excess fats, salt, and sugar. It's very visible on the package and it does influence what I buy.

But this is the way I found out we're doing this now. 😅

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 12 points 12 hours ago

they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years

Actually doing something? Good on them!

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

But also I think because all the existing cocoa producers are evil enslavers. This will help something like 1800 Mexican farmers.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 225 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

American government: Builds concentration camps

Mexican government: Develops brand new chocolate bars

I'm happy to see there are still some governments out there who rule in the interest of the people.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The MEXICAN government ruling in the interests of the people? This is absolutely delusional. Mexico is one of the most corrupt, dangerous, and unstable places in the world. The country is quickly turning into a warzone because of the cartels, and both the current and previous presidents and their government aren't doing anything about it because they're bought.

A government making a chocolate bar to distract from the crippling poverty and crime is not good governance, it's the opposite.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 21 minutes ago

Mexico's murder rate per 100 000 is 24.9, meaning you're on average safer in Mexico than in Newark, Memphis, Cleveland, Kansas City, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Detroit, Baltimore or St. Louis.

Never mind that murders in Mexico are generally committed using American firearms, and for American money over drugs that are to be sold in America. Mexico's problem is America. So while we wait for America to selfdestruct, I guess they might as well get to work on public health issues.

Obviously not saying that cartels are not a huge fucking problem. It's hard to get good politicians when they murder anyone who resists them. But the cartels are in large part a product of America's failures. Europeans are not innocent either - fuck every coke snoking upper class brat who is having their pathetic highs at the expense of a whole fucking continent.

/rant

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Tell me you haven't been to Mexico without telling me you haven't been to Mexico.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago

Have you been to Mexico? How about you take a little vacation to Sinaloa to prove me wrong?

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