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Native-born Americans never have to worry about losing their citizenship, no matter what they do.
that is far too confident a statement
The government can only do this in specific situations. It must prove someone “illegally procured” citizenship by not meeting the requirements, or that they lied or hid important facts during the citizenship process.
Civil suit. Can anyone file a complaint?
I hope you Americans are happy letting these people remain power, happy letting this happen.
Cuban's and Venezuelan's are the main targets with this. And they overwhelmingly voted for Trump. (because a lot of them are far right refugees that fled Communist dictatorships) They thought a far right government in the US was on their side. FAFO.
I dIdN’t vOtE fOr tHiS.
Eeeyep. And my reply to them?
"You did. You absofuckinglutely did. History has proven time and time and time and (four hours later) time again that right-wing dictatorships do EXACTLY what the Shitgibbon's administration is doing. You voted for it. You just hoped it'd happen to the people you didn't like. News flash. They don't like you. So, pack your bags and drop your shorts. The Dildo of Consequences has arrived, and as usual, it is not lubed. Enjoy!!!"
While I hate what's happening to (gestures broadly) there is a bright side, dark as it may be to look at it this way.
Most of the people currently being targeted tend to vote Republican, so there will be less of those people to vote, and the ones still in the country come election day have a higher chance of not voting or flipping against the Republicans.
Also more and more non-minority maga are saying "I didn't vote for this" and getting hurt by these policies. If just a small portion of those gets out from under the brainwashing and either doesn't vote or votes 3rd party instead that could also cost Republicans races.
Margins were tight in a fair amount of races last cycle, house, senate, and president. If elections are allowed and there's no tampering with votes, the Republicans stand a good chance of losing the house in 26 and the white house in 28. There's also state governments to look at but I don't want to write a small novel in the comments.
This is extra satisfying considering how many of those that fled are actually just evil fascist capitalists. FAFO indeed.
I take comfort in knowing that, if I live a normal lifespan, Trump will die in my lifetime. Unfortunately, all the hatred and bigotry won't die with him.
I won't be surprised if he is made a religious prophet by certain Christianity sects.
If it isn't Mussolini style I'll be disappointed, I can't lie.
We all will.
The cultural relief felt when thatcher died was palpable, and I wasn't even alive when she was actively fucking the country.
I lived near Brixton, South London. There was an immediate street party.
He's absolutely a figurehead. Dozens of people are lining up to be the face of a much bigger fascist coalition.
Nobody else has the ability to be the cult leader that he is. But maybe they'll be entrenched enough that they don't need the cultists' support any more.
Plus, hasn't he pretty well decimated the GOP ranks? Any worthy competitor has been exiled or humiliated or both leaving the ranks filled with only sniveling sycophants and uncharismatic bigots.
Cool, let them fight it out
There has to be a pathetic charmer in that bunch. It really is amusing this here temu run at fascism.
I have theories about what may happen when Trump inevitably dies. 1. The best case scenario is Trump dies, and his whole empire just slowly fizzles out and goes away. 2. Trump dies, and then the true religion of Trump begins much in the same way as Jesus when he was crucified, and his supporters believed that he will rise from the grave, bringing about a new apocalypse and judgment for the non-believers. 3. Trump dies and a new vicious wave of domestic terrorism breaks out all over the country if not, the globe. 4. Trump dies and his supporters go full Jonestown and commit mass suicide. 5. Trump dies and his supporters believe that he will reincarnate much like the Dalai Lama bringing forth a new group of charlatans and snake oil salesman, believing that they are the reincarnation of Trump starting a new way of life and a new cult of Trump. 6. Trump dies and his supporters do not believe it in and reported sightings of him being alive will exist far after the fact much the same way as Elvis.
Tell me more about option 4.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
This is a link to the Wikipedia page of Jonestown. While not completely the same, there are some very key similarities. I feel between Jonestown and the Trump cult.
Trump dies, and then the true religion of Trump begins much in the same way as Jesus when he was crucified, and his supporters believed that he will rise from the grave, bringing about a new apocalypse and judgment for the non-believers.
How dare you speak this evil into existence
Sorry, yea it’s very possible. If you watch anime the after credits scene of death note is probably what will happen.
Of all the people for the dipshits to rally around, they picked this failed game show host. It's so very much stupider than I could have possibly imagined. I sort of get how they lionized Ronnie Raygun, despite how awful he was for this country and so on....the veneer at least seems halfway decent and he at least pretended to love this country and those that live in it.
Taco has just a complete disregard for everything good about this country and hates everyone. What is there to like about that?
I believe that they like how he doesn’t care about anything but himself much like his supporters they only care about themselves and also being racist. And also Trump already being known helped and Obama being elected broke a lot of peoples minds. I live in a small town of about 4k people and the day after Obama was elected you would have thought that a 2nd 9/11 happened or a nuke was dropped. I also remember around that time an older coworker said that this country needs a rich, selfish, racist president and damn I should have put on it then. There are alot more factors that lead to where we are now with trump being president. We can only hope and cross our fingers that he dies soon.
I live in a small town of about 4k people and the day after Obama was elected you would have thought that a 2nd 9/11 happened or a nuke was dropped.
I remember I worked with a guy and another co-worker was sometimes still finishing up listening to NPR at a low volume, and around that time (Obama years), they'd be playing a soundbite from Obama. Almost every time Obama was talking, even though we could just barely hear it, the other co-worker would turn to me and mutter how much he hated Obama's voice. Like clockwork. Not what he was saying (if we could even make it out). Just his voice. This same co-worker thought NPR, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, etc....were all extreme left outlets, too, lol. And he spent some period of time where he was super-upset about...checks notes....seeing two government workers in a trucks. He mentioned this multiple times, so I can only guess it was some thing on hate radio around that time. When asked follow-up questions on why he's upset, nothing coherent could be discerned. Same dude was riled up about people that couldn't afford their house getting bailed out by government, or something, too.
I lost contact with him before Taco was elected, but I can only imagine he thinks that Taco is "fixing" everything. I don't know what he was like before Obama, but he was nearly inconsolable about Obama. It's why I think they uncreatively talk about "TDS" when Taco does completely outrageous things - Obama did completely normal things, or even if he did nothing at all, and they lost their heads over it.
This pretty much sounds exactly like my day-to-day life with coworkers as well. They are hard-core Trump supporters no matter what Ride Or Die for Trump even now with the Epstein files being unreleased. A few of them were upset about it but as of now they are still 100% behind Trump no matter what. I do think and feel that the Epstein files not being released may actually drive a divide between Trump supporters, but in the deep rural areas of America,I highly doubt even this will cause them to lose any faith in their would be King.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
People facing denaturalization get no free lawyer, meaning poor defendants often face the government alone. There’s no jury trial — just a judge deciding whether someone deserves to remain American. The burden of proof is lower — “clear and convincing evidence” instead of “beyond a reasonable doubt.” Most important, there’s no time limit, so the government can go back decades to build cases.
Please stop promoting this line.
There is a growing mountain of evidence people did vote. Votes weren’t counted. Overseas ballots never arrived.
This line of commenting validates the election for them.
He’s a cheater. He cheated in 3 elections. 1st one was too obvious 2nd one too many people voted against him to make the cheat work, making him think that the other side rigged it 3rd one was the smoothest fix ever with Elon money and know-how.
If you’ve wondered why everything looks like a coup since he got in, perhaps it is because it is one.
For most of American history, taking away citizenship has been rare. But it increased dramatically during the 1940s and 1950s during the Red Scare period characterized by intense suspicion of communism. The United States government targeted people it thought were communists or Nazi supporters. Between 1907 and 1967, over 22,000 Americans lost their citizenship this way.
This is why it's not good enough to simply stop doing horrible shit...
We need to change the laws to prevent future admins from abusing them
I wasn’t aware that “denaturalizing” was an actual thing. Is this something with legal precedent, or just something Stephen Miller has made up.
Basically, can you afford a court case against the U.S. Government to prove you never made a mistake on paperwork, or someone translating for you didn't make a mistake. Was anything missing from your report you gave 20 years ago when you didn't speak English and they said include the following?
The thing that blows me away is why... It's just money being blown from our taxes, to deport people who pay taxes... In a time period they claim we need higher birth numbers because capitalism demands growth and population growth makes that easier to support the social programs we have left
They don't even have to do that now.
A few weeks ago SCOTUS ruled that defendents deported from the US illegally would have to separately file cases to overturn their denaturalisation.
So the govt doesn't even need to get a court order to deport anymore.
While they could do it illegally, the case you have to fund yourself is a civil case against the government to decide whether your naturalization can be removed. Only once it is removed can they deport you as a criminal per the supreme courts ruling. Every person deported prior to the civil court case would be a "fiasco.". Not saying it won't happen, but the Supreme Court so far deems it illegal.
Unless I missed something, where did you see that ruling?
They're doing it to punish people they perceive as enemies.