30% of black voters are dumb as fuck I guess?
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Some may be undecided. Some may have not responded, which can put them in the undecided category. So, that can account for a chunk of that. Some may be willing to overlook the bad stuff because the good stuff outweighs that (might be a rich black guy, or they hate they gays so much that they're willing to overlook the bad stuff). But, that tends to be a minority.
I'm trying to imagine being a black voter and voting for the blatantly racist white candidate.
I'm not having a lot of success.
Misogyny and bravado. Same for a lot of the Latino and Muslim communities. If the election were rerun tomorrow they'd probably just not vote. People with these personalities will never vote for a woman.
Which, sadly, is why the Dems need to stop nominating women for president if we're ever able to have free elections again. I don't have much hope that will happen, though, since he's admitted he only "won" the 2024 election because "Elon knows how those vote counting machines work."
It should be pointed out that (according to exit polls) 80% of Black voters voted for Harris. I've heard so many people blaming them for Trump, but they're not the problem here.
I believe her most reliable supporters were Black Women, Jewish Women, Black Men, Jewish Men
In that order
Of course not, black was the most pro-Harris demographic. Hispanics were a toss-up, which was the headscratcher
Misinformation in group chats and latino men's love of machismo
I think they also were hit hardest by the thinking that he didn't do the things he was stopped from doing in his first term. He was bad for immigrants in his first term, but American Latinos, being Americans often have a desire to shut the door behind them and blame all the new immigrants for their problems just like the English, Germans, Irish, and Italians before them. So yeah they thought "surely not me, I wasn't hit last time."
Not as a whole, but the margins were so thin in some states that Trump won that if Harris didn't lose that small percentage of Black voters, she might have swung enough states to win the election.
Black people... Like what the fuck? Trump is like a caricature of a plantation owner. How does he even have 30% approval among block people
We've been evolving in reverse since the Civil War....
One underestimates the power and scope of right-wing propaganda, and especially how it taps into machismo idolization, sadly.
There is nothing manly about that sad sack of bones and lard.
russian dark money can buy a ton of surprisingly effective propaganda
Obvious lies only work on idiots. All you need is a quick glance to know he's not a paragon of masculinity.
Absolutely. There are just too many idiots though
They live in a country where Black people can freely have their faces eaten by leopards just like White people. "I didn't vote for this" is universal.
He's also the caricature of the dumb micromanaging boss that rips off his workers, but that's not a deal-breaker for white folks either; in fact, the majority apparently approve.
Americans are just stupid, and it's easy to whip us into a moral panic.
Americans are just stupid, and it’s easy to whip us into a moral panic.
I'm having a thought. It's easy to write them off as stupid, and they may be, but there's also like... If they have really bad information, the decisions they make given that info as true make more sense. If you really believed that Harris was eating babies, or "she's a communist that's going to put the christians in a labor camp", it would make sense to vote for the "lesser" evil.
Just need to figure out why they believe such falsehoods. it's probably fox news et al.
In my opinion, stupid is an aggravated form of ignorant; it's an aggressive, proud refusal to change one's mind despite having the clear contradictions in their beliefs presented to them.
They believe the falsehoods because it benefits them to do so. Importantly, all of their friends believe it too, so if they stop then they'll lose their support and social network. It's the same kind of thought control techniques that cults exploit.
MAGA is genuinely a cult
It's way easier to see why white people would support him though
The thing to understand is that people are deeply stupid and revel in their own ignorance.
Black males, like genz and hispanic males and..., mostly just said "I don't like my life under Biden. We need a change" and voted for "the other guy". Some were indoctrinated by their right wing (or tankie dumbfuck) influencers. Others just figured they were being cool and "we need to shake things up in DC".
I don't think you can explain this behavior as simply stupid and ignorant. There are plenty of stupid and ignorant people who didn't make the massive mistake of voting for Trump.
I think the most necessary thing needed to vote for Trump is a glaring personality defect. Bigotry is probably the most common. That's why the Republicans made such a big deal of trans people.
Other personality defects would be having an authoritarian personality, meaning you simply mindlessly obey whoever you see as an authority, like your church leaders. And complete lack of empathy, and extreme selfishness, and narcissism.
People genuinely take pride in not reading articles (or, as is obnoxiously common on lemmy, losing their god damned minds over a paywall). Same with how nobody watches the news and takes pride in "valuing my mental health"
The vast majority of those voters likely only knew about trump from a few clips from his rallies or hearing a "friend" talk about him. They never actually listened to a complete non-sentence or looked at any of the policy stances.
Which, to be clear, is not an excuse. It is an explanation.
My comment was mostly about the stuff I mentioned in the second and third paragraphs.
Which is irrelavent when the vast majority of americans STILL don't know the first thing about trump other than his slogans.
My theory? Polls were wrong and the election was rigged. They’re manufacturing consent.
The more likely theory is that the billions of dollars spent on propaganda actually worked. Marketing is far more effective than you’d think it should be… The average person is ridiculously gullible.
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Combination of propaganda and wondering what the Democrats have done for them
His black supporters must have similar mental health issues that Kanye West does...
Does Trump not look at himself in the mirror? Tbat fucking paint on his face, but white ass sides, makes him look retarded (and that is an insult to retarded people).
You think that dumbfuck is gonna sit down and watch youtube makeup tips to help with contour blending? He hasn't learned anything new since he was a toddler.
I think he is able to learn, but he has to fail like 20 times until he finally gets it (e.g. JCPOA, he's almost getting there). Makes him feel like a genius.
If he learns something new, it is only by diffusion and osmosis. He is not strong on active learning, since apparently he already knows it all and is the best at it all.
Too late. It's amazing that Americans still think that there will be another fair election that they can take this all back.
I'll believe it when they take it to the voting booth, until then it's just hot air and false hope.
There were gains? Voters have the attention span of a Chihuahua.
Fucking morons.
Why the fuck would black voters go for the guy who wanted to have the exonerated Central Park 5 executed? You know, the same guy who instructed his leasing offices to not rent out apartments to black people?
Because certain types of people would rather set their community on fire before electing a woman. Make no mistake about it, if given the option to change their vote, I doubt many would.
For the few people who genuinely want the answer on why it's even this high:
It's a lot easier to trick people that the wrong person is causing their issues, than it is to convince them that their issues don't exist and everything is actually great.
Biden/Harris spent the whole campaign talking about how great "the economy" was doing, but they were talking about investments made by the wealthy, not the average Americans quality of life.
This won't be an issue next primary, because no neoliberal can win a fair primary. For the first time since 08 the Dem candidate in the general will be the one most Dem voters want to be there.
That will drastically help turnout across all demographics
That's optimistic.
It's assuming the Dem Party doesn't sabotage their own candidates. It's assuming they don't campaign like it's 1960 again. It's assuming social media will somehow be reigned in.
It's assuming there will even be a fair environment for an election, instead of the government (and whoever's conflated with them) putting thumbs on the scales kinda like Hungary, or worse. It doesn't take much pressure to sway elections in environments this polarized.
It’s assuming the Dem Party doesn’t sabotage their own candidates
The party is the DNC
The DNC is a dictatorship controlled by the chair
You don't have to guess what kind of chair Ken Martin is, he was Minnesota's chair for a decade and that track record stands for itself.
He's already purging out old guard committee members, did a 180 on the flow of money between states and DNC, openly advocates for voters deciding the platform via fair primaries...
Like, not as a personal dog, but the overwhelming amount of people complaining about the DNC just aren't up to date on what's happening
Like, not as a personal dog, but the overwhelming amount of people complaining about the DNC just aren’t up to date on what’s happening
Fair point! I am not up to date TBH.
I guess I'm pretty jaded too. The DNC getting things together!? What is this?
The DNC getting things together!?
The biggest thing:
You may have seen articles about how two "union leaders" gave up on the party as well...
The thing is, they were both superdelegates who sat on the committee that have been influencing primaries to favor neoliberals, and one of them even tried to go against the primary results and give it to Hillary in 08.
Don't expect the media to portray things accurately, it's all owned by billionaires who would rather have a Republican than a progressive.
And this wasn't a sudden overnight response to the 2024. The DNC is ~400 voting members who maybe get to vote for a chair every four years, if a Dem becomes president they name a chair.
That group of ~400 have been moving left for decades, it's just that we finally reached the tipping point. We can't afford to slip like with Obama, and if I went into why 08 didn't fix the party this comment would be 10x as long
Even black folk have their fair share of Candace Owen “pick mes.” Massah always has his fair share of sambo house slaves who think they are massahs favorites like Tim Scott.
(I’m black so fuck you if you say I’m being racist here)
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