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[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If I go to the steam page for a singleplayer game and see a bunch of paid DLC content, I usually skip it. Look at Stellaris, for example

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Depends on how old the game is and how big the DLC is IMO. Rimworld, for instance, has quite a few DLCs now, but they are all well worth it if you like the base game. OTOH if a game just has cosmetic DLC or the DLC is coming out super near release that's a red flag.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Rimworld's DLCs are kinda assumed purchases for the modding scene, too. I feel like this drives a lot of their sales TBH.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

I'm of the opinion that Rimworld DLCs don't actually improve the base game, they simply build an extra layer of isolated complexity ontop of the base game. I like the base game but I didn't really enjoy the DLCs (at least not the first 2) because they didn't actually expand the base game. They felt like mods I paid for.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This describes just about all Paradox games made in the past 15 years, sadly. They release with a barebones concept, then slowly drip-feed content for 5-30 bucks a pop, each one usually sitting at "Mostly Negative" because it doesn't fundamentally add or change anything most of the time, and the times it does- meh. Crusader Kings 2 was my bread and butter for a long time. Played Crusader Kings 3, and it felt like almost every helpful mechanic that existed in CK2 was stripped, and then added on again over the course of years. It was so infuriating, that I just don't buy their titles anymore.

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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vampire Survivors is an exception.

[–] caurvo@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

$ for hours on VS is insane, even with all the DLC it's pennies. I feel like I'm stealing from the dev.

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[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At the very least, you can still pirate it and play cracked multiplayer with friends.

I made the mistake of buying the game year ago, and bought a bunch of DLC at 50% or greater sales, and now the sunken cost fallacy has taken hold on me, and I still want to buy more . . . . (at least I'm broke so I can't right now hehehaha)

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[–] SolarBoy@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago

I feel the same about multiplayer games without gated progression and LAN server hosting. (Or local/splitscreen)

These days I can't even play a multiplayer game with friends somewhere with shitty internet. And because of progression you have to force yourself to only play together, but never with different people or by yourself because then you will get ahead.

[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Yup I do not buy single player games that have monitizacion, indiana jones game was so far game of the year for me

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, that's not sufficient to keep that bullshit out of big-budget single-player games. Publishers can force it upon developers - and will. Once a few games get away with it, the cult of executives will figure they're losing money if they don't fuck you as hard as possible.

[–] termus@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

Spider-Man 1, 2, Miles Morales & Dragonage: Veilguard also deserve to be mentioned. I'll buy a game on launch at full price if it's not loaded down with bullshit or shoving the rest of the game behind a paywall. Otherwise I'll just be a patient gamer and get it in a few years cheaper and patched up.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And Multiplayer games like Helldivers 2

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Shoutout to FromSoft still having Bloodborne servers ready for me on my very first runthrough 10yrs after launch

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Making inoffensive microtransactions is such a tightrope walk. Just putting an up-front price is so much simpler on their end.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Hell yeah! Give us more of that!

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This is pure unadulterated copium. Numbers don't support this

Regardless, I'm tired of this shit. There is clearly room for both.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about games like Fortnite? Are they rewarded?

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

I would say its less that they're "rewarded" and more like they're turning every customer upside down and shaking them until the money falls out

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I enjoy single player, story driven campaigns like the new GOW, BG3, and spider-man, just to name a few. Would I like KC:D2 and CO:E33?

I've been playing truth E33. It's definitely slower than the Action games you list, being a JRPG-like game. It's your side vs the enemy. Think old Final Fantasy. A closer comparison would be the Mario RPG series. While it is a lot of your turn->their turn->your turn etc, there are timings during both your turn and the enemy turns for button presses to do more damage (or in some cases, any damage), or to negate or even counter enemy attacks. It's so much more of an engaging experience vs just pressing a button and watching your character do a massive combo. For me, getting really good at the parry timing is so satisfying. Most enemy attacks have multiple hits during their attacks, and if you parry every single one, you launch a counterattack. There is a dodge, but while it has a large window than the parry, all it really does is negate damage. That's another thing: because you can learn enemy timings, your can take on bosses that are well above your punching weight. I find that part very fun. The characters are well written, in my opinion. For what a dreary story the game writes, there are moments of levity and extra background you have the option of engaging with for each character. The game is a serious contender for game of the year, it at the very least several awards. And for only $50usd, it blows many other AAA(A) games out of the water. Give it a chance and I think you'll find it well worth your time.

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

KCD is unique, personally I love it. In some ways it's kind of the dark souls of first person RPG. The systems are at times a bit clunky, combat is hard, complex, and both you and your character need a lot of training to be profficient.

But that's the fun of the game. Henry is a useless lump at the start, and you mold him in to what you want.

Personally, I love hardcore challenging single player games, and few in recent years match KCD.

I dont have a system to play KCD2 yet, but from everything I've seen, the developer doubled down and kept the majority of the systems in place, just adding scale and polish.

I'm sure the first one is on discount these days, and highly recommend it.

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

KCD2 is exactly like KCD1 with a few more years of development refining and in some cases expanding the rpg systems, a new map, and a continuation of the story. It feels the same, just a little nicer. In other words, it’s a perfect sequel.

The only fault I have with it is that Henry starts the game bad to mediocre at most things instead of useless, and that beginning stage is my favorite to go through and out of. But being a sequel I can excuse it pretty easily.

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