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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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A non-anthropomorphized view of LLMs (addxorrol.blogspot.com)
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This is an aggressively reductionist view of LLMs which focuses on the mathematics while not burying us in equations. Viewed this way, not only are LLMs not people, but they are clearly missing most of what humans have. Choice sneer:

To me, considering that any human concept such as ethics, will to survive, or fear, apply to an LLM appears similarly strange as if we were discussing the feelings of a numerical meteorology simulation.

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[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 13 hours ago

I disagree with their conclusions about the ultimate utility of some of these things, mostly because I think they underestimate the impact of the problem. If you're looking at a ~.5% chance of throwing out a bad outcome we should be less worried about failing to filter out the evil than with just straight-up errors making it not work. There's no accountability and the whole pitch of automating away, say, radiologists is that you don't have a clinic full of radiologists who can catch those errors. Like, you can't even get a second opinion if the market is dominated by XrayGPT or whatever because whoever you would go to is also going to rely on XrayGPT. After a generation or so where are you even going to find much less afford an actual human with the relevant skills?This is the pitch they're making to investors and the world they're trying to build.