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Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told the European Union’s top diplomat that Beijing can’t accept Russia losing its war against Ukraine as this could allow the United States to turn its full attention to China, an official briefed on the talks said, contradicting Beijing’s public position of neutrality in the conflict.

The admission came during what the official said was a four-hour meeting with EU foreign affairs chief Kaja Kallas on Wednesday in Brussels that “featured tough but respectful exchanges, covering a broad range of issues from cyber security, rare earths to trade imbalances, Taiwan and Middle East.”

The official said Wang’s private remarks suggested Beijing might prefer a protracted war in Ukraine that keeps the United States from focusing on its rivalry with China. They echo concerns of critics of China’s policy that Beijing has geopolitically much more at stake in the Ukrainian conflict than its admitted position of neutrality.

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[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 67 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This flavor of candid admittance from a diplomat is not something I'm used to. I like it.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

If this information is true and the Chinese officials weren't bullshitting, then leaking this doesn't sound like a good move on the European official end.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 41 points 19 hours ago

The whole world is terrorized by assholes

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 42 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Out of all the reasons China needs Russia to win this is the most bullshit one they could serve us. They are sided with Putin, supply him with military equipment and help him get around sanctions for oil. They need Putin's war economy to work so they can replicate it in South East Asia obviously.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Doesn't their economy have a way bigger production capacity than Russia's? Why would they want to replicate Russia's? China seems much more successful at manufacturing at scale.

[–] mgnome@piefed.social 28 points 20 hours ago

Taco Don already functionally stopped all aid and arms supply to Ukraine and trying his hardest to ignore Ukraine, and will probably chicken out from helping Taiwan defend itself too in case latter gets invaded.

So that's just China being asshole too and wanting Russia to succeed, because that'd mean you can take a dump on international laws and have benefits that outweigh repercussions.

If whatever remains of free democratic world won't get its shit together soon - we will just get picked apart eventually by those last iteration imperialists.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

Yah, if anything, this is even more reason Russia must not win, it can cripple China too.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Until now, the fact that the rest of the civilised world would wreck their economy through sanctions has stopped them doing that.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They arent wrong in the sense that we need something to occupy Trumps attention with that doesnt cause too much damage. Problem is, the Ukraine war causes a bunch of fucking damage...

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

People tend to forget how afraid China is of USA. Last time Trump was in office Milley had to call China a couple of times to tell them USA was not going to implode and attack China.

Someone has to make hard decisions when other people won't make sane decisions. No one wants Trump to start WW3 with China. No one.

Remember what just happened when China hit the off switch on rare earth metals?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Trump might want this

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 17 hours ago
[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The deeper implications of this are... frightening, to say the least.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The US has been the biggest long term enemy to the working populations of the world since the end of the WWII, including its own. Throw a pin on the map, and you're likely to hit a place that's been affected by a war started or fought by the US, or a place where the US has had a hand in destroying worker power in order to for American business to extract resources and labour for cheap, or a sanctioned place where working people are made to suffer in order to overthrow their government, or a combination thereof.