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[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago

Non-American here. All Americans, except MAGA muricans, are welcome.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Moving abroad isn't actually a huge problem for Americans. I've looked into it and the only reason I'm still here is that my wife refuses to leave and I love her too much to leave her. Dozens of countries will give Americans residency, although citizenship is usually a lot more difficult and/or takes years. There is usually a minimum income requirement, but you don't have to be rich. I've seen it in the $1200-$2k/mo range in multiple places. Of course this has to be income you can still make while you're in the new country, not your US job you're going to give up. Makes it pretty sweet for "digital nomads" tho who can work remotely. TBH I don't know how easy it is for musicians to make a living - maybe learn a remote job first. But if you want to get started google "Americans moving abroad", there are tons of helpful videos and articles.

[–] duckworthy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 32 minutes ago

I’m taking Spanish right now, both to better support immigrants in my community and to possibly move to Oaxaca Mexico if necessary. I plan to visit a few more times in the next year or so, just to figure out things just in case. I don’t feel like it’s the time to leave yet - I have a pretty good intuitive sense for disasters.

I LEANfired at 44 so I can’t really go somewhere that requires a work visa, and I’m not rich enough for a golden ticket in many places.

France is actually a possibility because I’m fluent, I lived there briefly- but I prefer the art and culture in Mexico, and generally people are easier to get to know.

I’m also visiting my friends off grid in Montana, and may discuss with them rolling my tiny house up there someday. I know there’s a lot of crazy people up there but where they are is a bit away from that.

[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

Germany. I might be able to claim ancestry rights. Ironic that my great grandmother fled fascism in Germany but I'd flee America to return to the motherland.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 4 hours ago

I moved to Japan back in 2015. If I had it to do over, I might do Finland or Norway.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Don't come to Ireland. I've lived in the US for nearly two decades, made lots of friends and even helped some to immigrate here. The harsh reality is, however, that we're going through a really bad housing crisis, with our own homeless numbers growing every month, and house prices and rents exploding (a recent statistic showed that our growth in rents is four times the EU average). So, please, for our sake and yours, try a different country.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly the Netherlands seems pretty great.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Dutch food is pretty bland, but plenty of Indonesian, Moroccan and Turkish immigrants to add some desperately needed variety.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I was going to say Italy but they seem to be going fash again so... north sentinel island?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

North Sentinel Island is willing to welcome you with a gift of their finest bow and arrow show 🤗

(Serious tho, please don't disturb uncontacted tribes)

[–] FRYD@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I always wanted to live in a country that was totally different from America when I was a kid. I thought either India, China, or Japan back then, but now I’m not sure I’d want to live in any of them right now.

I guess I could go to nearby countries that don’t have global headlines like them say like Bangladesh, Thailand, or Indonesia, but I don’t really know anything about them.

I think the smart option would be somewhere in Europe, but I kinda want to get away or at least take a break from “western” culture.

I guess I can’t name a dream country, but somewhere with a totally different culture. I’d also want it to have a bunch of ruins and historical sites to visit. I’ve never seen anything older than like 150 years in person.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Where do you live in America? The northeast has cities with things/buildings older than the birth of America (pre-1776) if you want to visit.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago
[–] blujan@sopuli.xyz 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The kind of american that usually comes to Mexico is very nice, very welcome. Maybe the exceptions are the very loud and self absorbed ones that go to resort locations and act like they're better than everyone there.

As long as people want to integrate and cooperate they are more than welcome.

Now, the sad part is the gentrification that comes with a lot of people moving and outpaying rent vs the locals. Now the average cost of living in Mexico city is about 50% higher than the average salary, and about 100% higher than the median salary. Another very negative thing is that now a lot of locals have to communicate in english because American people will come and not learn spanish over multiple years living here. There are zones where everything is in english now. It's okay speaking english, it's not okay expecting english from everyone.

So a few pointers:

  1. Integrate, pay taxes, consume locally
  2. Try and move into already gentrified places, avoid displacing more people
  3. Push for social policy, increased affordable living spaces, invest in the country where you move into to improve the locals' life

Be friendly, but that's always

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

La ciudad de México is what I've been thinking of. seems like a fabulous place. doubt I could take the heat and I'm more likely to end up in Asia, but Mexico City and Toronto are top contenders

[–] blujan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Luckily mexico city is not actually that hot, quite humid though

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

yeah I'd prefer -30 over +30 and humid

[–] blujan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Now the good thing with humidity is that refrigeration works wonders, and in Mexico Mini Splits are super cheap, as is electricity

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Kenya. I have friends there, which would help.

I’d definitely be the obvious foreigner, given that I’m pale and ginger, but that’s worked in my favor when traveling before.

I’m also supposing here that there wouldn’t be quite so many other American expats to compete with.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Anywhere cold, with decent social services, good shipping, and people that leave me alone on the whole.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

Ah, welcome to the Nordics!

Hard as fuck to get in, or so I’ve heard.
The shipping might be slower than you’re used to, but we check of on the rest.

See you soon?

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 19 points 16 hours ago

As a member of the CAF, if the US Armed Forces are getting rid of LGBTQ folks, I would be proud to welcome them as my comrades in arms.

[–] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

If I wasn’t locked into this contract with my house I would be applying for work programs in New Zealand on my way to citizenship. When Trump was elected, the first thought that went through my head was, I don’t like winter, so Canada and the Nordics are out. Europe is 0-2 for getting destroyed in World Wars and WW3 is heating up. Africa has its own problems right now, as does South America, and regardless of where you go in Asia it’s not looking good for WW3. So options were Central America or Oceania. I know passable amounts of Spanish, and lived in Central America for a while and I would definitely be OK going back. But if I’m going to move somewhere might as well be somewhere new.

[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 hours ago

No need for muricans here

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I’ve lived in NYC for 20 years, I’d only give it up for Barcelona

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Germany here, only the smart once please. Dont need the idiots. Already got enought here

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Germany has been on my list of places to flee to if the fascists here start rounding up LGBT folks. I have lapsed fluency from when I lived there 30 years ago but I am confident it would come back quickly. The problem is that my husband doesn't speak any German at all and I think it would be a culture shock for him.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

I was smart once! OMW!!

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