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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

I think at some point you have to ask yourself "if killing 10s of thousands of innocent people is necessary to achieve my goal... does that make me the 'baddie'?"

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 139 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"If you want to destroy bigotry, you have to kill the bigots." How does that sound, Alan?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Sounds better than what he said, you're not advocating for killing bystanders.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago
[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

I came here to up-vote this comment. Thank you for posting it.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're literally no better than Hamas at this point. Hamas's who deal is, "fuck it. We'll kill the innocent with the guilty, let Allah sort it out."

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Please give me: statistics on the bystanders killed by hamas vs. statistics on the bystanders killed by the Israeli occupation forces

EDIT: Misread comment, but hamas still clearly values human life more than Israel

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's actually a lot worse. The IDF has a much, much higher rate of civilians killed for every noncombatant than Hamas does. Hamas is objectively better at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF is.

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Oh my bad, I misread your comment and thought you meant they're better than hamas.

I'm palestinian so I am biased, and I do obviously agree 100%

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

the IDF has indiscriminate bombings or attacks. hamas doesnt want to lose public favor from gazans.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would be interesting to see the statistics, if someone has calculated them. I wonder if reservists count as combatants or noncombatants. Would skew the numbers a lot

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.)

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Hamas is an irregular force, not sure they have what are traditionally understood as reservists

[–] tux@feddit.it 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Killing civilians is the best way to ensure that Hamas will have a steady supply of volunteers

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

If you're going to die anyways...

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

He has to defend Israel because he was on Blackmail Island and now they have controversial video material of him.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So what exactly is the difference between this and terrorism? (Nothing)

Wikipedia: Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In particular, fear, or "terror". You can use violence without anyone knowing, and you can create fear without violence. The fear is the key factor.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That refines the definition but does not show a difference. There are reports of starving gazans too scared to show up to food distribution.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, clearly, no difference.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol. IDF headquarters is in downtown Tel Aviv. Every accusation is projection. We really need to stop listening to this sex pest.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

he can be more than one thing, hes versatile

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Isn't the attempt at that exactly how you get more hamas?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He'd probably respond, "Not if you kill them all." Which of course has its own defined word that he'd deny.

Next step is when they publicly say that they're doing genocide, but only on "those" people. (let me guess, someone already did that maybe)

Has anyone suggested tattoos and gas chambers or we not going with full irony quite yet?

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Ya no way some other group from somewhere else will pop up

[–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago

Insurgencency operation math: 10 insurgents before - 2 killed insurgents = now you have 20 insurgents

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Which is exactly the point. They need Hamas just like George Dubya needed "terrorists" so they keep manufacturing them.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Palestine has the right to defend itself.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club -1 points 1 day ago

Israel doesn't

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is that your final solution, Al?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

"Can I phone a fascist?"

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Trump and the Israelis wont stop the war. Why would they? Trumps "peace" is a farce and a delaying tactic.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] burnoutqueen@todon.nl 3 points 1 day ago

@RandAlThor

There is a special seat in hell for Alan 'Diddy' Dershowitz, if hell exists

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's correct, but that doesn't justify it. Just the opposite.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"If you want to destroy Israel you have to kill the civilians"

Is exactly the same logic.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago

That would destroy Israel, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

What are you trying to say here?