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This is pretty disturbing, I hope she gets a massive paycheck for this violation.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 6 hours ago

They should have gone the other route and just had the woman from 2 point Museum/Campus so it, complete with sarcastic remarks.

"The train is delayed, but you know that already"

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

Pay the lady!

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 71 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

This is stealing her voice. It's just plain wrong.

What I really don't understand is, even if you think AI voice is okay, why not just make an original voice? Why you got to steal somebody's voice? Or if you don't want to do that, why not just get consent for the specific thing you're doing? Don't take advantage of the fact that she previously recorded her voice as an aid for the blind and steal her voice because of some small text in a contract. That's dishonest and pathetic.

You're the railway. Do you know how many people love and obsess over trains and railways? There are probably tons of people who would pay to hear an AI version of their voice coming from the train speakers. How did it come to this? How incompetent can you be?

[–] Verqix@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What you really don't understand is, AI making an original voice is a pipe dream. You can average out voices of many different people who all had their content stolen. Originality is outside of its training set.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

There are different things we're calling AI. One is engaging in endeavors that are traditionally seen as creative, like text or image generation.

The AI we are talking about for this story is a text to speech engine that creates a believable voice. The voice parameters may be created by a human or AI or whatever. But that creation of the parameters of a voice is not the type of AI that we are talking about in this story.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 6 hours ago

There are probably tons of people who would pay to hear an AI version of their voice coming from the train speakers.

Yeah, but it needs to be clear, and as much as I love Dave from the pub, he tends to mumble.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 40 points 16 hours ago

why not just get consent for the thing that you’re doing

I would imagine because consent would require opening the door to paying someone for use of their likeness, and if they were going to pay someone fairly they could just pay a voice actor. The whole thing is a means of getting what they want without paying for it

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 66 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

That's not disturbing; that's completely fucked up.

If they want to buy data to use for AI, they can pay someone to license their voice for its use. What they've done is no different to bootlegging, but it's worse because it's personally identifiable data.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 7 points 12 hours ago

Bro, do you really want to ruin tech bros because they would suddenly have to PAY for the data they use? Mark and Jeff would have to sell some of their yachts and Private jets to afford paying fair prices for AI data!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

Are you trying to imply that large corporations should play by the same rules us plebes are held to? How cute.

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Do they pay people for use of their voice when they get a cheaper voice actor in who sounds just like them?

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No.

But often those people sue and win. Midler v. Ford, for example.

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Frankly I'm horrified that it would go that way and wasn't aware there were cases like this with sound alike voice actors unless the voice was misleading stated to be of someone it wasn't.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes, the use of the voice was intentionally misleading. That's why it was decided the way it was.