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[–] lyricanna@ttrpg.network 20 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

Depending on your perspective, either the Americans half-assed their camps, or the Germans overbuilt theirs.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

The Germans built death camps.

Trump is building cruelty centres. You don't need much to starve and degrade people. Just cages, bright lights turned on 24/7, and a lack of food and fresh water.

I'm sure these will be upgraded to death camps, but for now they just want to see brown people suffer. Once they get tired of that, they'll start the killing.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

In 1933 the first concentration camps also had massive improvised parts. It took about a year for them to be run fully professional. Conditions also became worse over time, with the start of WW2 being a huge step. That was also the start of the extermination camps, which were meant for genocide. Concentration camps were "just" really horrible prisons, which also had criminal and political prisoners, which were actually partly released.

This is just early concentration camp. Good chance it gets worse.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Something I've noticed is that the Trump regime is doing fascism with absolutely no style. The Nazis were awful, but they looked good being awful, literally, as in they had Hugo Boss doing their fashion and Volkswagens to drive around in. Trump just has the cheapest stuff that still works, tents for the camps and generic military gear for the secret police. I think it says a lot about the nature of the Trump regime.

[–] grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Apparently even things that start out shitty are susceptible to enshittification

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 8 hours ago

The only competent people they have are the ones they want in the camps.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 27 points 23 hours ago

We couldn't find any builders for the concentration camps as the builders are in concentration camps.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Speaking as an American, America half-asses everything.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago
[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Everything is a grift with them, even genocide. They are probably embezzling most of the funds.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Yea probably this. Nazi Germany was in a sick way proud of their very efficient and stylish dictatorship. Trump's just here for the show, he wants minimal costs and maximum profit for the billionaires. There isn't even any nationalism here it's just a facade, this is about billionaires tramping (or trumping) over the rest to see how far they can push their oligarchy.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 23 hours ago

Well, seeing as it already flooded...

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (5 children)

what's annoying is reading on bsky or mastodon or other places with Americans going "it's happening" or "soon this will be normal" etc it's like no bro, it isn't happening and it isn't soon, it's now. It's already happened. you're living in it. you're a nazi nation. you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.

you're at the end of that poem. your government is now openly saying they're going to arrest politicians and citizens that don't agree with them. your government is taking away birthright citizenship and very soon they'll go after naturalized citizens and then just straight up regular citizens.

if you're not a white, "straight", christian, male earning over $500mil a year you're fucked. they WILL come for you. They've already laid out the protections for the group previously mentioned. You've lost your country and no amount of peaceful protesting is going to return it to you. There's literally one course of action left but I believe the average American is either too afraid or unwilling to commit to it.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Ooh, but calling for violence is naughty and will get you banned blah blah blah.

Get your shit together, America.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They took a "Death by a thousand cuts" approach to fascism, and we're about 1200 cuts in.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

At this point the left needs to take back the power of violence

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

154 million people voted in 2024. That's a hair over 65% of the voting agreed population. Over half of those people supported this shit stain, and even if they disagree with him on some things now, most will still support and defend him.

My personal objections to participating in a armed resistance aside. No one is looking to organize an armed resistance as far as I'm aware and the concept of organizing such a resistance seems nearly impossible for many reasons.

I've seen a few reports of protesters making things more difficult for ICE, but that's about the most resistance I've seen. I'm starting to see why reasonable Germans didn't rise up, it's not that they agreed or didn't want to, it's difficult to organize a resistance. There needs to be a clear leader, good communication channels, a way to vet those who join, and anything else a military operation needs. And even then, you'd be going up against over half the population and the armed forces. And it would be giving a reason for them to use full military force against the citizens.

There is no good end to this, there is no way to stop this from continuing. I think a lot of people are counting on midterms to bring a peaceful end to this nightmare, I doubt we will have that chance and even if we do, the outcome will not be enough to swing the power.

We're fucked.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Less than half of voters voted for this admin. He only won a plurality.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Oh you see now how impossible it really is to fight back once it's in swing? You either need outside assistance from a hostile country, or you will be dying basically out of spite, accomplishing nearly nothing.

You need something more, something smarter.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.

I can only hope that the body count isn’t as similar as the rest of their playbook.

It is terrifying to consider the very real possibility that the US may have already “deported” thousands of people to a mass grave somewhere. I’m not aware of any evidence of that, but while it would still shock me it would not surprise me.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What exactly do you think CECOT is? Those people aren't awaiting trial.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

CECOT

Coordinates 13°32′1″N 88°48′18″W

Are so many 8s a coincidence?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Confinement_Center

[–] FriendlyN3rd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

watching this happening in real time makes me wonder if the only reson germany lost was bc they started a war. bc rn it seems like we r doing what germany did but havent started a world war yet which will be interesting bc wed prob end up like russia, china, and NK etc. everyone know there are concentratiosn camps and human right violations but nobody would do anything bc there isnt a valid reason too yet bc if anyobe does anything, itll be taken as a sign of aggression and possibly war

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nazi Germany kinda had to start wars because their spending wasn't sustainable: they had significant yearly deficits and they were always looking for ways to push forward the day that Germany would become insolvent. They stole the assets of outgroups like the Jewish minority, financially raided the banks, had the treasury print money to pay of debts, implemented price and wage controls to stave off inflation because of printing too much money, ... None of it was sustainable in the long term. The longer term plan was to conquer other nations and plunder those.

And very unfortunate for the world today: the spending by usa republicans isn't sustainable either + the usa has a very big army. Some people would say that the usa republicans couldn't possibly be that stupid to rob or invade their peaceful trade partners, but ... a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.

They aren't just stupid, many on the right are religiously dedicated to the idea of a judgement day and devastating war between 'good and evil'. They are convinced 'God is on their side'. Evangelical Christian fascists have been pushing this for years, it was almost guaranteed to come to direct conflict from the course the US has been on unless there was some kind of intervention long ago.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

A good book that documents this is The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer.

An arduous read, but vital for thinking minds nonetheless.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The longer term plan was to conquer other nations and plunder those.

So what Fat Hitler keeps talking about regarding Greenland and Canada

[–] cammoblammo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump keeps talking about annexing Canada though. Hitler didn’t need to invade Poland or any of the other nations he Blitzkrieged, but there it is.

He has fallen quiet about that though. I wonder if someone with an ounce of historical knowledge told him that if you’re going to fascist, don’t start wars at the same time.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 134 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Call it by what it is:

Alligator Auschwitz

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

It's deliberate by Russia so they have an excuse to bomb us. I've been telling you all they would do this since December.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 80 points 1 day ago (1 children)

denial is a powerful weapon. along with propaganda, gaslighting, state controlled media, money-- all things deployed to make the average, normally decent human being witness the atrocities going on around them and say "i mean, this is america. we wouldn't allow masked men to kidnap people for no reason" as they watch their literal american citizen neighbor getting kidnapped, imprisoned, deported. murdered. for no reason

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Anyone who believes this can be stopped through any means other than revolt is either a fool or a liar. Take up arms, organize with your community, and fight back.

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