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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (5 children)

what's annoying is reading on bsky or mastodon or other places with Americans going "it's happening" or "soon this will be normal" etc it's like no bro, it isn't happening and it isn't soon, it's now. It's already happened. you're living in it. you're a nazi nation. you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.

you're at the end of that poem. your government is now openly saying they're going to arrest politicians and citizens that don't agree with them. your government is taking away birthright citizenship and very soon they'll go after naturalized citizens and then just straight up regular citizens.

if you're not a white, "straight", christian, male earning over $500mil a year you're fucked. they WILL come for you. They've already laid out the protections for the group previously mentioned. You've lost your country and no amount of peaceful protesting is going to return it to you. There's literally one course of action left but I believe the average American is either too afraid or unwilling to commit to it.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Ooh, but calling for violence is naughty and will get you banned blah blah blah.

Get your shit together, America.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

They took a "Death by a thousand cuts" approach to fascism, and we're about 1200 cuts in.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

At this point the left needs to take back the power of violence

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

154 million people voted in 2024. That's a hair over 65% of the voting agreed population. Over half of those people supported this shit stain, and even if they disagree with him on some things now, most will still support and defend him.

My personal objections to participating in a armed resistance aside. No one is looking to organize an armed resistance as far as I'm aware and the concept of organizing such a resistance seems nearly impossible for many reasons.

I've seen a few reports of protesters making things more difficult for ICE, but that's about the most resistance I've seen. I'm starting to see why reasonable Germans didn't rise up, it's not that they agreed or didn't want to, it's difficult to organize a resistance. There needs to be a clear leader, good communication channels, a way to vet those who join, and anything else a military operation needs. And even then, you'd be going up against over half the population and the armed forces. And it would be giving a reason for them to use full military force against the citizens.

There is no good end to this, there is no way to stop this from continuing. I think a lot of people are counting on midterms to bring a peaceful end to this nightmare, I doubt we will have that chance and even if we do, the outcome will not be enough to swing the power.

We're fucked.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Less than half of voters voted for this admin. He only won a plurality.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Oh you see now how impossible it really is to fight back once it's in swing? You either need outside assistance from a hostile country, or you will be dying basically out of spite, accomplishing nearly nothing.

You need something more, something smarter.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Your stats are wrong. How are we going up against half the population if much less than half the population voted for Trump.. and now his favorability ratings are even lower than when he took office?

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nearly half the population didn't vote at all. It's not a small number that would still defend him. Maybe not half, but significant enough. Then you have to wonder, how many active duty personnel didn't vote for him and where would they stand when the orders were given. Would they commit treason in the eyes of the CIC?

His approval ratings don't mean a whole lot. We've seen how well polls have translated to real results in the last decade. I would also argue that disapproval does not translate to civil disobedience.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Okay, so to summarize: You're disregarding the numbers we do have to support your point.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.

I can only hope that the body count isn’t as similar as the rest of their playbook.

It is terrifying to consider the very real possibility that the US may have already “deported” thousands of people to a mass grave somewhere. I’m not aware of any evidence of that, but while it would still shock me it would not surprise me.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What exactly do you think CECOT is? Those people aren't awaiting trial.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

CECOT

Coordinates 13°32′1″N 88°48′18″W

Are so many 8s a coincidence?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Confinement_Center