Edit2: As of third of July we've achieved the minimum amount of 1 million signatures! But organizers recommend as many signatures as possible to cover for possible invalidations (1.5M would be ideal). If you have not yet signed, you can still help!

Onto the post.

Yarr citizens of the high seas! The Stop Killing Games movement is still ongoing and we've recently had a second wind. It's within reach!

We're all lovers of media in here, and games currently have no safeguard that guarantees that they won't be locked down long after being released and abandoned. If crackers help us, they can still be played long into the future, but many times there isn't such a possibility, specially in multiplayer games.

This initiative seeks to change that by mainly:

Disallowing planned obsolesce in paid video games. (Ex: By disallowing phone-home based DRM after the game reaches end of life. Like in Ubisoft's The Crew)
Ensuring that paid multiplayer games can still be reasonably played long into the future. (Ex: By releasing relevant server hosting software)

If you didn't sign yet, there is only one month left. Tell your friends too.

Do you live in the EU?

You can sign it here: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

Do you live in the UK?

You can also sign a different one here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/

Do you live elsewhere or would like to know more?

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

Disclaimer: Reminder post, sort of relevant since piracy movements have much to benefit from this initiative.

Have a fine day!

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Either stopkillinggames.com has crashed...

Or the counter has exceeded its max possible value.

UPDATE:

We've done it.

Don't stop signing up!

Get these damn numbers as high as they can go!

...

Clocked at about 16:13 UTC/GMT, or 4:13 PM UTC/GMT, Thursday July 3rd, 2025.

...

Fuck July 4th.

Gamers....

This is our independence day.

[–] sakuragasaki46@feddit.it 6 points 16 hours ago

I went to sign and it told me I already signed. I did it like one year ago

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

KEEP SIGNING EVEN AFTER THE THRESHOLD HAS BEEN REACHED!

Signatures will be checked and, historically, 10% to 20% of signatures have been invalidated.

So we need to get at least 1.3 million signatures to be completely safe.

KEEP SHARING!

[–] ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago

We in overdrive, baby!

[–] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 18 hours ago

yayy! nearly there

[–] niva@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 19 hours ago

99% !!!

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Given the impressive increase in signing rate, I'm a bit afraid it'll turn out to have been tampered with

[–] ArkyonVeil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago

FOMO, popularity and trending algorithms are powerful forces.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 18 hours ago

Yes, that's why it's important to gather more than 1 million signatures. At least 1.3 million to be on the safe side.

At the end of the collection, all invalid signatures will be deducted from the total.

So now it's more important than ever to keep sharing and signing.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

Big youtubers like Jacksep are also promoting the partition

[–] rfr_Foglia@feddit.it 1 points 19 hours ago

I'm also afraid of this

[–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 day ago (4 children)

An important reminder that if this can be enacted into law, there is a chance it would not only apply to games but also at some point maybe to all software that does not require a server to operate most basic functions (ie. looking at you adobe)

Sign it, and get your friends and family to sign it because the proposal is pretty common sense: if you buy something, you should own it.

[–] spy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago

Another reminder that if enacted, in practice this is not only for Europeans.

If games have to be reasonably playable in Europe then they will be reasonably playable everywhere.

This benefits all consumers one way or another.

More importantly though, for everything, like the comment I'm replying to mentions: If you buy something you should own it.

[–] ArkyonVeil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Personally hoping this opens the door to discussing planned obsolescence in the digital realm as a whole, from games to software. It's corporate wild west over here.

[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

You don’t need any ID to sign it, so you can sign it on their behalf if they give you verbal permission.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is mainly why I signed it. I honestly don't care about new games, and the whole narrative around the campaign is frankly infantile, but it should at the very least be a start towards fighting such practices in general.

[–] ArkyonVeil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

I'll agree to disagree, but nevertheless thank you for your support.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

You're infantile

[–] beesthetrees@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago

Remember everyone, 1 million is a MINIMUM goal. Keep signing afterwards if/when we reach the milestone, as some signatures can be declared invalid due to errors like wrong spelling, so we need every single person we can get in the EU to sign this!

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

UK petition has less than 5k to go!

[–] droolio@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WTF! How did it hit target already? Hope there wasn't any bot farming involved...

Otherwise, pleasantly surprised!

[–] ArkyonVeil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Don't think it's bot farming. There's a lot of muscle being thrown around and it's trending.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

100k left

[–] Piratieee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Shared the link. Hope you guys get the numbers you need 🙏🏽

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Glad to be proven wrong on this. I’m not very confident at the EU will act (the UK already said in February they are not going to) BUT hopefully this can at least get some grass roots momentum going and they can turn this petition initiative into something sustainable for the long-term

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Well the UK said they have no plans but now they have to actually debate it in Parliament. So it's better than nothing - at least the proposal gets a chance to be heard.

[–] Dutczar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

EU has done some legislation on microtransactions, the most recent one being mandatory real-life currency price tags instead of the in-game currency ones.

It could be seen as a gambling issue rather than digital ownership, but it at least means they pay attention to video games.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Predatory corporate practices that are pissing off parents as they harm children are a lot easier than “video games are art and should be preserved,” unfortunately

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

But we got a lot of consumer protection going on and a right to repair movement. For instance phone batteries will have to be easily replaceable again starting in 26 or 27, can't remember. None of that has anything to do with protecting the children and it still all passed. Video games are already recognized as art btw. All we need now is consumer protection for digital products, it's extremely lacking in that department.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's say you're company x budgeting y millions to make a game, after this passes, you may want to account for the fact that the EU may legislate the issue in the years it takes you to develop your game. Might as well work on compliance in advance.

Yeah, wishful thinking, I know.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That only works if the EU signals that they are taking this into serious consideration, which I don’t really think they will, but I want to be very clear that I don’t think the effort is therefore fruitless. I just hope people understand that this petition doesn’t even count as a start lol. We have to build off of this or it just fizzles out.

At this point the petition works best as an organizing force if you ask me. Gets people informed and hopefully involved

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do I have to be a citizen of the EU or just live there? I'm going to be moving to Sweden soon but won't be a citizen for a long while still

[–] ArkyonVeil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Citizens only I'm afraid. You can still help though by spreading this around, if any of your friends are EU citizens they can help.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How is that petition even valid? For example, as a non-EU citizen, what's to stop me from just selecting Finland and entering bogus info? Does that mean as a US citizen I get to decide EU laws?

Additionally, from the "initiative seeks to..." part, none of that is listed on their website as goals. They don't list any goals which is kind of problematic if you have an EU petition. Its a petition to do what specifically (show me a goal)?

EDIT: I just read through the Past Actions & Results of their site. Of the completed Actions, all of the them have failed. I then realized this petition doesn't require EU to pass anything, only that a committee look at it. I feel like this is a really well intentioned activity that ultimately will fail due to poor execution. Even if the petition succeeds, no action has to be taken by EU member nations and historically hasn't.

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

what's to stop me from just selecting Finland and entering bogus info?

The petition needs to be signed with the eID of a EU country, a EU passport or a EU identification card in most countries.

Unless you have one of those, you can't sign the petition with bogus info.

Not sure how countries that don't have those handle it.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago

Not for Germany you don't.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Signatures will be verified at the end of the petition period.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you know how? Its pretty easy to just randomly generate addresses using something like this (https://www.bestrandoms.com/random-address-in-fi). I can just VPN to Finland and enter Itätuulenkuja 92, 02100 Espoo, Finland. Its just a construction yard, but is the petition recipient going to actually check that?

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Don't know the exact mechanism, but EU countries have national ID database, so unless you're committing actual identity theft your signature will be invalidated.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There's no realistic way to spoof the eID I needed to vote. It is bound to you, you generally can't get one without in-person identification, and once you have it it only works with an authenticator app.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have signed the petition but wasn't ever asked for an ID.

So in countries like mine (FR) how are they gonna check my signature?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

Idk, did they ask for your id number?