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wait until you hear about the insane bullshit that went on on the Milo and Otis film :/
Even though animals were harmed in the film, it was still released?
Then what's the point of the protections?
Honestly for disney that's spca worthy
All for capitalism....
discovered that the lemming scene was actually filmed at the Bow River near Canmore, Alberta, and further that the same small group of lemmings was transported to the location, jostled on turntables, and repeatedly shoved off a cliff to imply mass suicide.
Fixed link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wilderness_(film)#Controversy
Boy, markdown + deep links is not a good combination.
No, animals were harmed in the making of this film.
This is probably the best use of this meme I've ever seen. Beautiful.
Parvovirus is a puppy owners worst nightmare. It's kind of puppy ebola but super contagious and high mortality rate.
Typically puppy owners never accept a puppy younger than 8 weeks without their first vaccination. And don't let them go out in places exposed to other unknown dogs until after the second vaccination at 16 weeks. So those early weeks should be spent with other vaccinated puppies to socialise them. And if you are going out, carry them or put them in a cart, or take them places you know no sick dogs have been within a year.
Yet another reason why raising puppies is so much harder than people think.
image of text
no link to source or actual text
pointlessly breaking the web & accessibility
Does OP know about this alternative to images of text called text? 🤦
Hoooooly shit I knew productions with animals were usually darker than they seem but Snow Buddies???? Snow Buddies was built on the back of mass puppy casualty???
Go watch Milo and Otis again. Holy shit. They through a fucking kitten off a cliff.
After doing some wtf research, the thing was filmed in China. Those poor kittens and puppies.
*Threw
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/animals-abused-milo-and-otis/
That was a rumor, and has never been verified despite decades of discussion and many attempts to prove or disprove it. Also, it was filmed in Japan, not China.
Snopes can leave things unsecured all they want, but the footage of what happened to the cats and dogs is proof. There wasn't any CGI in 1986 and the abusive and stressful situations they did to them was obviously real. But yes, it was Japan instead of China.
I don't know anything about your overall claim and don't know what the movie is that you're talking about but CGI absolutely did exist in 1986. The original Tron released 4 years prior, and green screens/similar had been around for decades.
God, that jumpcut. That least they could have done was make it LOOK like the cat jumped itself.
At least it survived the cliff dive.
Lol. Dude. If you think green screens and CGI weren't super easy to recognize back in the 80's, you need to go watch some old movies that used it.
Also, yeah, Tron released 2 years earlier and had some CGI. There was even CGI way before Tron in movies. When I say there was no CGI, I'm saying there was no CGI that could fool even a 6 year old into thinking an animal was jumping off of a cliff.
As for the green screen thing.... Bless your little soul.
Werner Herzog boiled 11000 living rats in ink for Nosferatu.
Dutch behavioral biologist Maarten 't Hart, hired by Herzog for his expertise with laboratory rats, revealed that, after witnessing the inhumane way in which the rats were treated, he no longer wished to cooperate. Apart from traveling conditions that were so poor that the rats, imported from Hungary, had started to eat each other upon arrival in the Netherlands, Herzog insisted the plain white rats be dyed gray. To do so, according to 't Hart, the cages containing the rats needed to be submerged in boiling water for several seconds, causing another half of them to die. The surviving rats proceeded to lick themselves clean of the dye immediately, as 't Hart had predicted they would.
Holy shit.
If you're shocked by capital murdering puppies, wait until you find out about the animal torture/murder industry, enslaved labor, etc.
The puppies are just the tip of the meatberg.
Our ignorance is godly.
The meat eaters are not going to be happy with this comment. :^)
nah, it's fine, puppies are too stringy anyway.
I don't understand?
You never heard the joke before? "How do you know if someone is vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you"
But in all seriousness now.. every group out there, no matter how moral or good or whatever will always have extremists and people like this that will give the group a bad name. Unfortunately, veganism has a lot of these. Which is a shame, because we really need more vegans.
Hey, I think killing animals is bad
Ugh, extremist much?
Yeah, because calling everyone "meateaters" and pretending they're all equal and that killing puppies to make make a movie and eating chicken is the same thing. Yeah, that's a perfectly normal and healthy way to spread the message.
People would be a lot more open to discussion and change if you weren't so confrontational. The fact that you felt the need to disagree with someone that said the world needs more vegans proves my point, I'm pretty sure, but whatever, you do you.
I'm sorry, but this is giving me massive "of course I support feminism, but goes too far/is too hysteric" vibes. You can suggest better communication strategies, of course (or better yet, use them yourself), if you think you know better how to convince people to stop killing animals. But only criticizing vegans for their tone, and then finishing with "I think the world needs more vegans" does not make you sound supportive at all.
I'm gonna ask the dreaded question then: If you think the world needs more vegans, are you vegan? And if not, would you be if vegans were less rude to you?
Heavily reduced meat and animal product consumption but not yet vegan, no. It requires more research and time and energy than I have right now to fully switch. (And a few more good recipes, because many are quite meh, for some reason) But I'll get there eventually.
And vegans haven't been rude to me, thanks for your concern. It's not about that, even. But all those jokes that are floating around haven't been created by the meat industry. It's not some conspiracy. You know the phrase "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"? That's all I'm saying.. and it's not even about veganism.. it's about life in general. People are way too angry, especially online. Too quick to judgement and insults. They say the same thing about leftists.. that they're too busy fighting amongst themselves rather than focusing on what matters.
Disagreed with plenty of people in real life, but it's never been like this. Never heard the phrase "meat eater" in real life, even tho I've talked with plenty of vegans. Same for "tankie" and a bunch of others.
I couldn't imagine not killing baby boy chicks at less than an hour old in a masher, ALIVE. What would we do without taking a mother's bubba from her in the dairy industry.
And it's also evolutionary fortification that we make a choice that works out well for us through real metrics or confirmation bias and we broadcast it to everyone else.
If you want to see more animal endangerment check out Milo & Otis.
They legit threw a cat off a cliff into the ocean for it.
In a movie from 2008, so it wasn't that long ago. You'd think they would have known better by then. Another reminder to boycott Disney.
tldr: they were too young, a bunch got parvovirus and didn't make it
Addendum:
They were too young and a bunch were sick, they were forced to get older puppies, who then also got sick.
They fucked up, got told they fucked up, then fucked up again.
Transcription
An American Humane Certified Safety Representative visited the Snow Buddies set on the first day of filming. Fifteen Golden Retriever puppies were on set and fifteen other were being treated by a local veterinarian, and their illnesses were eventually diagnosed as Giardia and Coccidia. On request from the representative the remaining puppies on set received additional veterinary checks. Twenty-five of the puppies were from an American breeder and five were from a Canadian breeder. It was discovered that the puppies were approximately 8 weeks old, which lead to the belief that the puppies were only 6 weeks old when they were brought by the trainer to the movie set. Per the USDA it was at the time illegal to transport puppies under the age of 8 weeks.
After the removal of all 30 puppies, 28 older Golden Retriever puppies were brought in to continue filming. All of the 28 older puppies were exposed to parvovirus. Five of the puppies died, and up to six others fell ill after exposure to the virus.
As a result, the film was not permitted to use the "No animals were harmed..." disclaimer and received an "Unacceptable" marking from the American Humane Association.