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Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (36 children)

I've been Android and Windows user for pretty much all of my life. Vehemently anti Apple because of the company and I've thought the products are trash. I've been 100% Linux for over a year and a half, and if this Gemini stuff comes through, I will not have an android phone either. I have a Pixel and my old still functional Pixel. I need to try installing grapheneOS or something else and trial it to see if it will work for me.

If Linux isn't an option for me in the future for whatever reason, I will be purchasing a Mac. I will never have a Windows machine for the rest of my life if I have any say in the matter, work being the obvious and uncontrollable exception. The fact that I'm even entertaining the idea of owning an iPhone or a Mac is really telling about how far Android and Windows and enshitified.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The user experience of GrapheneOS is basically the same as vanilla Android, except that you have more control (you can uninstall google apps, for example), but at the cost of a small minority of apps (banking ones, for example) not working (out of the box, sometimes at all). My banking app works, and a quick google search will tell you if yours does too. If your old pixel is not too old (4 is no longer supported, 8 definitely is, not sure abt in between), you should give it a go. I think you'll see it's not as big of a step as you maybe currently imagine.

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[–] pxlkttn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

I've been using GrapheneOS for a couple months after having tested it on an older phone for a while. I'm really loving the level of control I have over what I give apps access to. If you have a spare Pixel to test on I definitely recommend it! I've been getting away from all Google stuff and finding free open source and self-hosted alternatives. I'm running in the opposite direction of all the AI and data-farming.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 1 week ago

"We spent a lot of money on this, so you're going to have it."

[–] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Let's not stop at Google. Break them all up!

[–] pappabosley@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Seize the means of production

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[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gemini depends on the Google app, disable it, and it dies.

Have you noticed how the Google app, the one that supposedly just does search and list news articles, has like 400 MB? Over time it accumulated 2GB cache... how?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Dammit don't make me switch to apple phones, I hate apple. I hate Google too but FFS all you need to do is stay out of my way and the one thing you continuously do is stand in my way...

GTFO of my way! Piss off with that AI crap that nobody asked for

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

An ungoogled android variant has to be a lot lesser of an evil, no?

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (10 children)

In the absence of being able to switch to Graphene (Don't own a pixel), I've done everything I can to replace Google Apps with FOSS alternatives, and disabled Google Assistant on my device entirely.

I know none of that will stop a determined Google eventually fucking with me, but at least I'm trying.

I'm so damned tired of the modern corporate world.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago

“Google is making it easier for Google to pry into your personal data.”

“Water is making it easier for water to make you wet.”

[–] fannymcslap@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Laughs in eu

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Remember when Google+ was the future?

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish it had been. Circles were so much better than FB groups etc

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So there's an opt-out.

The article seems concerned that the email announcing this doesn't include a specific path to the opt-out right in the email (which is a weird concern, considering the email provides two links to... presumably that information)?

I'm not sure what this means, either, but it seems the "whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off" line is saying that you can still have Gemini send texts for you even if you disable Google storing your apps usage server-side? I don't use Gemini as an assistant, so I'm not sure, but looking at the Gemini settings menu on my Android phone that's what it seems to map to.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

IMO, when Google lost most public support, it really started going downhill because the people who wanted to profit the business as much as possible became more determinant than those that were still trying to throttle the company due to ethical considerations. When a company gets criticized for everything it does, its decline increases significantly. Add to that it exists under the US government and how that has completely fallen to corruption.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't have Gemini loaded to my phone and I have Google assistant voice command disabled

But a few days ago I was having a conversation with my son next to me on the couch with my phone sitting on the arm of the couch.

When I asked him a question, gemini answered with a prompt on the screen I have never seen before and haven't since.

It still creeps me out

I looked up what the prompt for gemini is supposed to lol like and this looked nothing like that. It looked more like a popup dialogue box from a browser but the only browser I use is opera and it is set as default

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah a couple of weeks ago Google secretly activated Gemini on every Pixel user's phone. I ran into the same problem, my phone suddenly activated and Gemini popped up interrupting a song that I was playing while I was away from my phone. Ended up screwing up the song and having it repeat over and over and over.

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[–] classic@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So is Gemini on there as an app? It isn't listed as such on my phone

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yes, it's on there. I have a phone, never downloaded or installed Gemini, but because it's a motorola with a special extra button... I can push that button and up pops Gemini.

The only way I can stop it is by disabling the Google app, then the button becomes innert again (which is how I like it).

So yes, it's embedded in the Google app. Disabling the Google app may aslo cause other issues (such as Google Home/Chromecast not working).

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Well I guess I’m glad I moved over to apple. But I guess the enshitification of all our phones is coming soon.

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[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apple has been seriously underperforming on their AI strategy.

Really makes it easy to keep using their devices.

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[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 12 points 1 week ago

Few years ago I got a Nest Secure to go with my other Google Nest gear. One day Google emailed me to tell me Assistant was now enabled on my security system. Oh, by the way, it has an undocumented microphone!

That’s when I realized what a privacy nightmare Google really is. I know Apple isn’t great but come on.

[–] LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maybe this gives me a false sense of security but I bought the adguard pro on social stack (I think...). I just turn all of the connections off on gemini, meta and Bixby. Like this

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