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Okay let me start with two heavy hitters right from the get go and don't forget these are only personal oppinions and I absolute understand if you like those games. Good for you!

Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Not a bad game per se, but I don't get the hype behind it. Sure the dungeons are fun but the world is so lifeless, the story non existent, the combat pretty shallow, the tower climbing is very much like FarCry but for some reasons it's okay here while Ubisoft gets the blame...like I said I dont get why the game is so beloved. Never finished it after the 20 hour mark and probably never will.

Red Dead Redemption 2 - Just like Zelda not a bad game, but imho highly overrated. Graphics and and atmosphere are amazing but the controls are clunky and overloaded, nearly everybody is an unlikable douchebag who I would love to shoot myself at the first opportunity (maybe except Jack and Abigail) but I have to root and care for them. The game is just so long and feels very stretched, you already know that you won't get Dutch because it's a prequel and for an open world game you often get handholded in your weapon selection or things you can do because you have to wait for them to be unlocked by the game. I'm now nearly done with the game, playing the epilogue at the moment and I would say the last chapters are more entertaining than the rest of the game, but I still can't understand why this game was on so many game of the year lists and I really wanted to put the controller down a dozen times.

So there they are, two highly controversial oppinions by me and now I'm really curios what your takes are and how highly I get downvoted into oblivion 😂

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Doom: The Dark Ages.

Yes, it's a pretty game. Sure, they hit their design goals, but it's the design itself that I hate. It's geared entirely towards close combat to the point where half the weapons are redundant or otherwise stupidly useless compared to others. It's geared towards close combat to the point that the player's projectiles disappear after a certain distance, while the enemies' shots can travel much further. Sure, there's plenty of 'nice' things they added to make it easy to churn around a bunch of groups of enemies up close, but it's insanely dumb how it's 100% of the game design. Especially because many of the maps are trying to show off large vistas and open areas, where it becomes VERY obvious that the player's shots disappear while you're being pelted by enemy fire just fine.

The extra game modes of flying and being in the mech are neat in concept, but so insanely underbaked they feel more like a waste of time task to push through than a cool extra part of the game to enjoy. They're not mixed in with the on foot parts well at all and feel more like basic transitionary moments they attempted to add some gameplay to.

The attention to detail sucks, especially in the UI. A couple easy points demonstrate it: The most obvious is how their UI triggers work. You can click a button, and it plays the activate sound, but it's not activating if you click it before the mouseover/highlight animation is done. In a similar vein, most affirmative interactions are a stupid wait for it long-press while going back to the mian menu from between levels is as simple as an escape key press. A purposefully slow forward with an instant back is just... pointlessly dumb. In a similar vein, while the game is showing you all the crap you did and found in the level, your only options are to sit there and get annoyed with the obnoxious, slow, and loud tallying of everything, or skip ahead to other pages and go back. Escape and space don't skip or do anything there. Basically, there seems to only be one poorly thought out path to get to anywhere in the UI, with no convenient or standard alternatives implemented: Half baked.

The story and character designs were made by edgy teenagers. It's infinitely worse than Doom Eternal or 2016. Old Ones are C'thulu ripoffs, most of the styling of Hell/etc are now just generic scifi with a bit more red, and many of the new designs are somehow more generic ripoffs of older doom. They pull inspiration from tons of other spooky things instead of rolling with the Hell themes or other established lore. So much of the added lore is just ripoffs of greek mythology and other things, too, like a boat to ferry souls and a bunch of other crap I don't care to remember because it's just not memorable, intersting, nor do they fit the usual themes of Doom.

In a similar vein, so much of the story is lackluster and uninspired. There is some interesting sounding writing hidden in the lore book, like why the slayer's mount is half mech, but it's simply stated in the lore instead of being a potentially cool way to introduce the mount or other things. So much of the game is ONE game loop (close combat) with few dynamic options and a bunch of extra half-baked fluff tacked on.

It's frustratingly narrow sighted and underbaked to deserve to follow Eternal or 2016. It feels like it's in some parallel universe from the other games, even from 2016 and Eternal.

I want to play the DOOM Slayer rampaging through a Hell inspired by 90's metal, not some parallel universe written by edgy teenagers where he's some glorified Master Chief ripoff with anger issues for a personality who's just following orders.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago

you seem to spend a long time playing games you don't like 😅

for an explanation of why people love botw: https://youtu.be/CZzcVs8tNfE

I completely agree about rdr2, but I didn't play it that long before I just installed mods to let me duck around more and explore the beautiful world.

games i don't like that everyone seems to love: games that waste my time with levelling systems that draw the game out way longer than it's fun, which is most modern AAA games. I hate how people say things like "you get your moneys worth playing WoW because you'll spend hours playing it" and "i liked portal but it was too short", portal was good partly because it was short...

Team Fortress 2. Too different in contrast with TFC, which I feel like I played for ten years straight.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Elden Ring for me. The kids have all played the shit out of it and killed literally everything in the game. I hopped on for about two hours, wandered around aimlessly, died a few times, avoided everything to prevent dying, died a few more times and decided I never needed to do that again.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Same exact experience. Then someone from Reddit messaged me some non spoiler wary game tips and I went back in and played 130 hours. It was my first souls game since PS3 Demon’s Souls. I ended up loving it. But I fucking hated it at first, and I don’t blame anyone for being turned off.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Doom Eternal. I don’t usually enjoy FPS games and I’m not very good at them but I absolutely loved Doom (2016) as it took out most of the things I hate about FPS games. But in Eternal I just felt like I was constantly out of ammo, and there was too much focus on using specific weapons against specific weak points on enemies which I couldn’t get the hang of

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fully agreed. I HATED the game while going through on Nightmare, at least until I got all of the weapons so then I finally had enough freaking ammo. They should've left the weakpoint stuff as the motive for switching weapons, not literally fucking the player over with low ammo. I started enjoying it by the end when I could actually fully engage with how it was designed, but they royally failed to make that design work out for how the game progresses from the beginning.

[–] Veritrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm replaying Doom Eternal right now and I feel this so hard. Even with ammo upgrades and judicious chainsaw use I'm constantly out of ammo. Really makes me wish for a melee weapon that doesn't have limited fuel or whatever.

[–] Renacles@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a few days old but I might be able to help. Are you switching weapons or just sticking to a single one?

A single chainsaw gives you something like 20 shotgun slugs and a bunch of ammo for every single other weapon, you shouldn't have ammo problems unless you are trying to kill a heavy demon with the assault rifle primary fire.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMO, it was more about how it forced you to focus on other elements than demon slaying. Especially with how some enemies are only really vulnerable to one weapon. So, if you even had a momentary lapse of planning, it was a, "shit! where's the nearest scrub mob?!" when you ran out of certain ammo, which just completely pops the flow of combat.

It wasn't so bad later on when you had enough weapons to cycle through, but early on when on Nightmare or worse, enemies just soaked up too much damage for how tiny the ammo capacity was. It was a game of inventory management, not demon slaying.

[–] Renacles@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only 2 enemies vulnerable to a single type of attack are DLC and you have your full arsenal by then.

I agree that the game is a bit weird during the second and third missions due to the limited tools you are given, but I think you might be exaggerating how the weaknesses work a bit.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

No, it crops up plenty often when many of the big enemies who actually trigger the fight progression can soak up an entire set of an ammo type without dying.

Sure, there was usually plenty of options to eventually get back to slaying, but the point is you had to play a meta game of managing your ammo and weapons when by the game's lore itself, the doom slayer is supposed to be a raging unstoppable beast.

It's not about things literally becoming impossible, but the absolute interruption to "ripping and tearing" if you had even a momentary lapse of playing the meta game.

[–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago

Have you considered using your chainsaw to "rip and tear"? It can help you with the ammo issue.

[–] solitaire@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't even like Doom (2016). It was ugly, dull and I hated the finisher system. Really disappointed because I'm old enough to have played the other Doom games as a kid and I mostly enjoyed the new wave of boomer shooters. Great soundtrack though.

[–] tcrpz@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Outer Wilds. I think it’s a fine game with a pretty cool gimmick (time loop) and a neat story. The gameplay itself isn’t that fun. I think what ultimately ruined it for me was the online discourse about the game; every time it gets mentioned, hundreds of people flock to the comments to extol the philosophical storyline, and throw around hyperbolic descriptions like “life-changing”. Again, the story is pretty neat, but I was left underwhelmed after having been built up by fans of the game.

[–] exterstellar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Outer Wilds gave me super anxiety when playing it. Something about the time loop aspect and having to redo a bunch of stuff.

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Skyrim never "clicked" for me. I remember hearing awesome things about it: a vast open world full of things to discover, the ability to create my own character and build it however I wanted, the option to influence the world around me with my choices......

In practice, I found myself in a very big but mostly empty world, full of copy-pasted uninspired dungeons with randomized loot, and no matter what character I chose to build, the combat system sucks and the AI never tries to do anything more than mindlessly walk towards you (and get stuck on the scenery). I was never able to immerse myself in the world because everything was so drab and insipid: generic characters living in generic cities talking about generic things with a very bad dub.

Choices never matter because the game insists on spoon-feeding you everything it has to offer. You can roleplay as a barbarian and still become the headmaster of Hogwarts; you can side with the romans or the vikings but the world doesn't change aside from the uniform of the guards patrolling the cities you visit; you can ignore the dragons roaming the land and they never do anything, because they are just random encounters in the world without any kind of personality or goal aside from turning up and being a minor annoyance to the player.

The modding community is great, but even after spending a few hours installing a dozen or so mods, I was never able to escape the jankiness of the original game: it was still Skyrim, just with a different coat of paint (and a few less bugs and horrible UI decisions).

Reading about the overall reception of Starfield, I felt like I was going crazy, because everything the people say about that game, I already felt about Skyrim fifteen years ago. On the one hand, I felt like my feelings were being legitimized; on the other hand, I still don't understand why people forgive Skyrim (and still play it to this day) but hate the new Bethesda game so much.

[–] prunerye@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Minecraft. It desperately needs some QoL improvements for it to be anything but tedious.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's what mods are for, most of the game's popularity is built around the community and not the vanilla game itself

[–] GhostMatter@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't mind a little clarification, because I was interested in this game, but I'm skeptical about it.

It sounds like it's actually kind of frustratingly not fun - the way a precision platformer is? But then you go on to say the streamer rage quit because it's too easy? I'm just a little confused but maybe I'm misreading.

I hope it's not one of these ridiculously punishing games, if it is I'll just flipper myself right past it.

[–] GhostMatter@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

In this thread: People who don't like a genre of game, criticizing games for being that genre

[–] goombakid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ocarina of Time. It's one of the few Zelda games that I just didn't enjoy. I've had a lot more fun playing Twilight Princess and Wind Waker more than Ocarina. I'd play Adventure of Link more than Ocarina.

Skyrim. Mostly all the RPGs like that. Never understood the hype. I did try to like it, but it wasn't fun for me at all.

Checkers. You start with only one piece type and they go to the trouble to make all those squares and you only use half of 'em.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Deep Rock Galactic.

Yeah I said it.

I wanted to like it, but the gun play was underwhelming and gameplay kind of boring.

Worst of all was the progression. Upgrades were tiered in ways that made 1 a clear best choice. Perks were uninteresting passives or actives with bizarre activation requirements. No way to upgrade flares or pickaxes. And I’m not a guy that cares about cosmetics, so it just didn’t work for me.

I’m happy for everyone else that got a GOAT experience though.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For rock.... And... Stone... ⛏️🥹

[–] refreeze@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Grand Theft Auto.

All of them, but especially V. I have tried a few times to play them but never get more than a few missions in before losing interest in the story. I think I have to like or identify with a protagonist to enjoy a game, and most GTA characters are pretty unlikable.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago

to be fair, GTAV has the worst story, the main appeal of the game is not the story at all. I think I skipped most of the cutscenes when I played it.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Pokemon. It's just a franchise of watered-down jrpgs imo.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sports games.

I know people who like them exist given the sales. But not only do I not play or like sports games - no one that plays games in my social circle does either.

It's like the Venn diagram for people who play RPGs and those who play sports games is just two circles.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I do find it kind of odd that some people only play the latest sports games and nothing else. Also NFL Blitz on the Dreamcast is one of the best games and I've never watch a game irl.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sonic games, I'm referring specifically to the first one and that era.

My friend and I rented a Genesis I believe it was, specifically to play this, we thought the graphics were awesome, the speed was amazing, the t3ch show off was cool, the game had novelty.

But really from a gameplay perspective, I simply do not understand what people like about it.

The whole thing was just run as fast as you can down this path, you have no idea what's coming up. There will be multiple opportunities to take different paths but you don't really have time to make a judgment call, so you flail at the controller and end up hitting a hazard. You start the level over and over and over again and you repeat it until you understand which way to go and then you complete the level.

Now you've run into every single gotcha and you figured out some optimal routes, now you can play it all without dying a lot.

Why would anybody want this?

[–] BlueGlasses@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That is part of why people like sonic games i think. Replaying a level over and over again to get the fastest possible route to complete the level (usually the top path, which is also the hardest as it's easy to fall down to the bottom). It should also be noted that the games don't like the players holding right all the time and will punish the players if they didn't react in time.

This is not simple platforming, the classic games are a little.... different? Idk the word for it, but compare sonic and tbe other platformers like mario, it is extremely different, which is why not a lot of people "get" sonic. I've had some people looking over my shoulders when i play a sonic game and was told "i don't get sonic" which, all things considered, is understandable.