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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I don’t think the majority of Americans understand what that means. They’ll just scream “commies!” And raise their maga flag.

But the idea of a starlink-like business owned by UN would be nice, and not an American corporation owned by a nepobaby Elmo.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In the USA space-x gets away with a lot. A few years ago they announced they were no longer going to bother with getting all the FAA approvals needed for their rockets because it took too long. Space-x still got government contracts.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

If your want proof that the wealthy live by a different set of laws, look no further than the time Elon Musk, ceo of SpaceX, went on a podcast and smoked weed.

SpaceX has DOD contracts for launches, and somehow him blatantly violating federal law had no impact on the contracts his company fulfilled for the government.

Do I think weed should be classified like it is? No.

Do I think that everyone should be held to the same standard? Yes. And if anyone else had been involved in government projects while going on podcasts and smoking weed, they’d at the very least be fired.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

When's the last time the US nationalised something?

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The automotive manufacturers General Motors and Chrysler were partially nationalized in the wake of the 2008 Financial Crisis as were several banks... these were less a full government takeover and more of a government guided restructuring, but the government owned large stakes in these companies. Before that, the only full nationalization of anything substantial was the bankruptcy of the Penn Central Railroad and subsequent establishment of Consolidated Rail (branded as ConRail) the US's only national freight rail company.

Conrail was later privatized into what is now the private companies CSX and Norfolk Southern. The collapse of Penn Central was the largest bankruptcy in history until Enron in the 1990's. Amtrak, our national passenger rail corporation, is also a nationalized entity created around the same time as ConRail, for similar reasons, and is still nationalized (although the Trump admin wants to privatize it).

[–] zbk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I think during world war 2. But things were worse then 15% unemployment and people still had massive economic leverage. I don't think the US government is nationalizing anything anytime soon now. Neither party will participate in it because they are in the pockets of the oligarchs.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 135 points 1 day ago (13 children)

You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (56 children)

No this the one time I’m with the commies. Nationalize that shit. Like you said it’s all taxpayer money anyway. A little bit of Wall Street speculation, but who gives a fuck about those people

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 288 points 1 day ago (39 children)

Yeah I mean the tax payers have literally already paid for all of both SpaceX and Starlink. The public paid for it, the public should own it.

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

I think that's a complicated question. It's both yes and no. Yes, we should nationalize them. No, nationalizing them should not be by tRump. That sets the precedent, or at least reinforces, the concept that the architecture of industry can be nationalized as payback for petty political squabbling. They should be nationalized, however, because fElon has proven himself to be unstable, reckless, petty, and a risk to the nation.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

remember the halcyon days when NASA could do something and the president might not like it, but they were all FUCKING ADULTS and the grift was well distributed amongst the congresscreatures, so it never devolved into adolescent twitter whining?

goddamn those were better than whatever this shit is

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Lets reach a compromise. Impeach Trump (successfully) and then take away SpaceX from Elon. That way things would be fair.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (30 children)

The precedent that will set and the implications... No... We should not do this.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

The precedent that will set and the implications

and what precedent is there for dealing with the executive of your country's entire space launch infrastructure when they become dependent on horse drugs?

No really, what's the precedent here, I want to know. Because if we set a precedent by ignoring it until the problem is impossible to ignore, that's gonna be a far more expensive fix.

So yeah, yeah we should consider this very strongly.

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[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Starlink should not just be nationalized but internationalized.
It is internet for everyone on earth, not everyone in the USA.

Every larger nation deploying their own constellation would be a pointless waste of resources, and every smaller nation having to find reliable partner-nations to tap into for that internet access would inevitably lead to people ending up without access due to political games.

Low orbit satellite constellations are the perfect candidate for sharing, they would literally sit unused over most of their orbits otherwise.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Has US nationalized anything this millenia? I really don't see that ever happening

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tax burdens for billionaires

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[–] Campliving69@aussie.zone 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Agreed. These are things that should be of the people.

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