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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

I can literally never use Reddit again but all.my search results keep taking me there

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 38 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I miss old YouTube so much it hurts omg. i miss how it wasn't about engagement, branding, money or camera quality, it was about broadcasting yourself and having fun. now it's become a bland corporate shell of what it used to be and half of my recommendations are AI slop lol

source: I'm so old I remember when YouTube vids were rated with stars and everyone had neon channels with funky text

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I miss being able to tell at a glance whether an instructional video was trash. I have the "return youtube dislikes" extension but it doesn't work as well for a multitude of reasons.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago (15 children)

this is exactly what i said to a friend today

actually, in a few years, maybe the young people won't spend their time on instagram, because it's all bots anyways. maybe then the young people will enjoy living outside of their screen-devices again, and physical life could get a revival.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

When I was a teen, way before the internet, if the outside didn't hold much appeal (usually because it was raining) staying in my room and reading sci-fi and listening to music and stand-up comedy on cassette was a viable option. I'm ok with going back to that. My ebooks directory runneth over.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whomever wrote this had to have been a child during that time because this doesn’t describe the internet I saw.

The 1990s internet was closer to this fantastical notion.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

No, 1990s internet just hadn't actually fulfilled the full potential of the web.

Video and audio required plugins, most of which were proprietary. Kids today don't realize that before YouTube, the best place to watch trailers for upcoming movies was on Apple's website, as they tried to increase adoption for QuickTime.

Speaking of plugins, much of the web was hidden behind embedded flash elements, and linking to resources was limited. I could view something in my browser, but if I sent the URL to a friend they might still need to navigate within that embedded element to get to whatever it was I was talking about.

And good luck getting plugins if you didn't use the right operating system expected by the site. Microsoft and Windows were so busy fracturing the web standards that most site publishers simply ignored Mac or Linux users (and even ignored any browser other than MSIE).

Search engines were garbage. Yahoo actually provided a decent competition to search engines by paying humans to manually maintain an index, and review user submissions on whether to add a new site to the index.

People's identities were largely tied to their internet service provider, which might have been a phone company, university, or employer. The publicly available email address services, not tied to ISP or employer or university, were unreliable and inconvenient. We had to literally disconnect from the internet in order to dial into Eudora or whatever to fetch mail.

Email servers only held mail for just long enough for you to download your copy, and then would delete from the server. If you wanted to read an archived email, you had to go back to the specific computer you downloaded it to, because you couldn't just log into the email service from somewhere else. This was a pain when you used computer labs in your university (because very few of us had laptops).

User interactions with websites were clunky. Almost everything that a user submitted to a site required an actual HTTP POST transaction, and a reloading of the entire page. AJAX changed the web significantly in the mid 2000's. The simple act of dragging a map around, and zooming in and out, for Google Maps, was revolutionary.

Everything was insecure. Encryption was rare, and even if present was usually quite weak. Security was an afterthought, and lots of people broke their computers downloading or running the wrong thing.

Nope, I think 2005-2015 was the golden age of the internet. Late enough to where the tech started to support easy, democratized use, but early enough that the corporations didn't ruin everything.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Self hosting and federated social media. Take back control. Fuck the corporations.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (12 children)

This is why I'm a big fan of Lemmy and federated social media. It removes the monetization incentive, and it's obscure enough to barely be targeted by bots (so far). The remaining piece that is still an issue, in my opinion, is that we're still engulfed in the more modern internet culture of rage-bait, walling ourselves into our echo chambers, and occasionally seeing heavy-handed moderation.

I'll take two wins out of three any day though.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It's so interesting. My partner is still on Reddit and she was complaining to me about the massive amount of bots, trolls and general negativity. My response was basically, yeah, that's why I left and don't miss it one bit. I found a much better place that has actual discussion and nowhere near that level of toxicity. I asked her if she wanted to know about it and her answer was just "No". LOL. She's also a fan of super drama filled reality TV so I guess if you like one you like the other.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

I don’t remember it that way. To me, it was a minefield of viruses, popup ads, chain mail, and unexpected extreme NFSW content.

Everything improved a bit when browsers started limiting recursive popups and hidden executables on websites, but for much of the late 90s and early aughts, every click was risky. And oh my god the design of things. I was so happy when the tag finally fell out of fashion.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

What that taught us was to be fucking careful about what you click on on the internet.

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[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

I was there, even a couple years before that... and in reality not so much has changed.

What we now call "The Internet" is what BTX (in germany) was back then: A commercialised platform controlled by corporations. Trolling, hate, ragebait... all nothing new, just look at archived posts from the Usenet!

The cool thing is that we now can rebuild something that is more akin to the BBS networks of yesteryear, something like the Fido-net, something that is entirely owned by the people using it.

[–] kender242@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

"The Matrix was redesigned to this, the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you, it really became our civilization..."

they were spot on.

[–] onion_trial@europe.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The big tech industry products are like that. There are still small communities which are meaningful, peaceful and friendly.

Take a look at knockout.chat

[–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, that's what the old Facepunch forum evolved into, right? Yeah, that was a really nice place when I last visited, but that was years ago. I just felt like I had grown out of it.

[–] onion_trial@europe.pub 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, thats what it was once

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It was, but... this morning I pulled out my pocket computer that also can make calls, started streaming the Disco Elysium soundtrack, and proceeded to drive across two cities. There were no pauses or hiccups in the stream.

The early 2000s mind cannot comprehend this.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But surely if you hit any bumps while driving, the disc skipped, right?

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was so human a lot of usenet was properly unsavory.

Because that's what humans are, mostly.

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[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago

I would argue was even more the case during the earliest days of the web. It was really a open, untamed, wild west feeling, like anything was possible.

Then the corporatization of the internet happened during the dotcom bubble, and all hell broke loose, we know the rest.

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works -1 points 22 hours ago

There were also "no girls on the Internet". Everything was gatekept, every space was some sysop's petty feifdom. Racism ran rampant, so pervasive as to be almost invisible.

It wasn't uniformly better.

We can't, and shouldn't go back. Ever forward.

[–] Chewget@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

It ain't years it's months ago...

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes and no. It's important to remember that people lied and wanted to rage: but it was annonymous and we knew everyone was full of shit so it didn't matter.

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