What, really?
I mean, holy shit, I'm not going to question divine providence from fucking Jupiter or whoever the fuck it is watching over elections, so, hey, you know, what convinces you convinces you.
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I feel like even though biden didn't perform well, trump just said way too many obvious lies. Like saying the nazi rally in charlottesville was just a lie made up by biden?? Despite there being photos of it???
Weird title when the split they cite is 45% and 44% not going to lie. I cant find out why that implies what the titles says.
Hey, look!!! They found a couple people that are voting for Biden
Are the undecided voters in the room with us right now?
You laugh, but I still have no idea what I'm going to do in November.
I'm in Texas, so it doesn't really matter. But its not something I enjoy thinking about.
Texas is more purple than you think. PLEASE vote and PLEASE spread the word that every vote matters, because Trump supporters are far less defeatist than Biden supporters. Don't give them the illusion that your state is any more Republican than it already is by not voting.
Texas is more purple than you think.
Fool me once...
let me put it this way:
Texas will likely NOT flip blue this year for the presidential election. The presidency is not the only thing on the ballot. Other positions are easier to flip blue, which will give democrats incumbency, prior experience, etc. that will make it easier for them to hold higher offices later. If you're going to foster up-and-coming politicians whose beliefs align more closely with your own, you have to vote for them early in their careers. So you have to vote. So you might as well make your state LOOK a little more purple so fewer doubters choose not to vote next time around
Other positions are easier to flip blue
Not under the current gerrymander.
Being a defeatist isn't helping anyone. Gerrymandering is a problem but it isn't bulletproof, and broad changes to voting patterns will overcome gerrymandering. Those district borders are drawn from historical voting data, which will become inaccurate if you charge your own status from non-voter to voter
Being a defeatist isn’t helping anyone.
Being realistic means not spinning yourself up into a lather and bashing yourself against a brick wall until you break.
People were pissed at me calling this yesterday.
I was wondering why they all abruptly stopped messaging me a couple hours ago.
The decided voters are where they are.
If you're undecided, and you watch this debate with an open mind, there's only one logical conclusion if you want your life to get better, and that's to vote for Biden.
It was 4 years of trump damaging the US, telling lies and objectively being shown not to follow through on what he says, then being found liable for rape and treason.
Even though Biden mumbled some words, his answered questions were believable because they were in line with the last 4 years of his administration, that have been great for civil rights,the environment, sustainable technology, infrastructure and the economy.
No-brainer for the undecided.
Really? He shuffled on and was so incoherent I was shocked. I turned it off after ten minutes as it was embarrassing to watch. They need someone better.
Absolutely absurd.
He's been doing a great job for 4 years, standing next to dumps, who can't string two sentences together, and being asked palatable questions that basically mean nothing, I think he did pretty well for an 81-year-old.
Also, biden's a great president, they don't need anyone better.
I'm not commenting on the four years, I'm not American, but on what I saw. It was not a pretty sight. "pretty well..." isn't a great measure, is it? Not many are saying he came out looking well
Are you going off the two five-second clips that are being repeated everywhere or the entire debate?
For an event that means so little substantively, "pretty well" is a good metric.
If you walk through a manure mister and look pretty well at the end of it, you're good.
Also, he has regular public performances before and after that event, if you watch any of those, he's fine.
4 years of effective administration is more significant testament to biden's ability to lead than standing on stage next to an idiot for 90 minutes.
I watched the first ten minutes of the 'debate' and had had enough.
I don't know how many watched the ones prior and subsequent to this, but... 68m people (if I remember rightly) watched this.
The past four years don't mean much for the forthcoming election at the end of the year when the concerns of people are not being addressed, by someone who struggles to walk and speak coherently.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0jXKYxpaiUE5fSPyiHKnQN?si=42896b8bbce34857
There are plenty of people worried about this, and calls for him to step down are significant. If he's like this now, what's he going to be like in his mid-80s? This does not look good.
You can say: the past four years! as much as you like, it won't matter if Biden loses, which is a more realistic prospect than it was last week.
Many people who didn't watch the debate, don't regularly watch his public appearances and read internet comments feel the same way you do.
Calls for biden to step down are not significant in the real world, they are baseless epithets repeated on the internet by anonymous strangers or established conservatives.
The concerns of people are being addressed, any claims to the contrary are not based in fact.
"what's he going to be like in his mid-80s"
Not as important to holding the office of the President as people are misapprehending. Biden's not a car salesman, he is administering a country, and he's good at it. He can wear polka dot bow ties for all I care. FDR was in a wheelchair and often couldn't speak at all.
Anyone who believes there's any reason to replace Biden as the presidential candidate at this point is either allowing themself to be fooled by internet trolls or is a troll themselves.
Anyone who believes there’s any reason to replace Biden as the presidential candidate at this point is either allowing themself to be fooled by internet trolls or is a troll themselves.
What do you think now? The writing was on the wall three weeks ago.
That I was right, democrats all got taken in by conservative bullying and threw away their best chance at winning the presidency with the incumbent president who already beat trrmp and gained allies and voters through progressive legislation.
...which conservatives? They were political commentators, Democrats and their funders. Biden is/was not going to win.
He certainly won't now.
I asked which conservatives (had a meaningful impact on Biden stepping down).
Your statement was not sensible in the first place, and is evermore silly now.
The Democratic Party put pressure on him to stand down because he was not going to win; only his pollster said he had a chance, no others did.
He certainly won’t now.
He was never going to.
Calls for biden to step down are not significant in the real world
They were.
You're having trouble understanding simple statements.
Don't put that on me.
You can be confused about what you're saying, but it doesn't mean that you're incorrect assumptions are correct.
Biden easily could have won.
His supporters were afraid he wouldn't, listened to tired conservative propaganda from four years ago, and circled around the baseless, cynical take that a candidate who already beat Trump and has gained lots of allies during his first term because of his progressive legislation couldn't win twice.
It's a foolish sentiment, but it's much easier to tear someone down than stand by your convictions.
That's what you're doing here.
I'll find someone to slow clap for you.
Feel free to point out which statements.
Again, which conservatives, and why did they have an influence?
The Democrats are applauding him for stepping down.
It’s a foolish sentiment, but it’s much easier to tear someone down than stand by your convictions.
Sticking by what you're saying when it's clearly wrong is not standing by your convictions, is folly. It's digging a hole and putting your head it in so far that you ignore reality.
Your attempt at performative comments (to... no one but me) don't look smart.
And sticking by my correct statements, despite the bandwagon patting themselves on the back for being duped is not folly.
You're close but woooosh
You're right, everyone else is wrong, including Biden who said it was the right decision.
Not everyone, and not what you're taking about, and not in that context, but I appreciate your enthusiasm.
It’s hard to vote for Joe Biden but it’s really fucking easy to vote against Donald Trump.
Why is it so important that everyone vocalize exactly how reluctant they are to vote for Biden? Has his administration really done so poorly? I understand the frustration with Israel but that has more to do with us as a country historically as well as with how strong our ties with Israel are. I don't know how fast everyone expects us to break all those bonds, and they somehow expect there to be no backlash either?
Apparently patience is just gone in the internet age.
Now I wish there were other candidates.
Wait til the media have carped on about it for months