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[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Look, I just want you to know:

I think socialism is an awful system and will lead to untold suffering and pain. It is rationally an awful decision.

But I can also absolutely understand every single US-American living through this shit wanting radical change. I am aware I am writing this from a privileged Position from the Heart of Europe and my View would probably be different if I was living through the same shit as you.

I still think you should settle in the middle for social democracy, maybe something a bit more left of it, but I can understand if you get emotional and take radical decisions.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 1 minute ago

We gotta change to proportional representation if we want different results from our government.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

TBH does this really reflect on the justice system or the size of the perp's fan club?

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 18 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Luigi’s trial appearance had a shitload if protestors and threats associated with it. Luigi has people threatening to break him out, kill him, and or disrupt court. And all of that is happening in a massive sea of people.

That’s why security is much much higher.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

Yeah, Eric Adam's did this to send a message, but I don't think he realized what the message was or how it would be received.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Protect the money at ALL cost.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Devil's advocate here, nobody wants to break the serial killer out.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

You'd be surprised but yes

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 42 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Well of course, half the nation would get together to spring Luigi, but no one's gonna come for a Nazi fuck face.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

FR Luigi had a crowd waiting outside.

[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

"Alright, but arrest him in a way that doesn't make him look like a master-mind modern Robin Hood."

"Damn."

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

When I first saw that Luigi Mangione photograph, I thought "damn, that guy's about to drop the hottest rap album of 2025."

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Alright, yes, the Justice system is clearly overreacting to one type of murder over the other, yes. But, just for clarity, those armed guards are not there to maintain control of Luigi like he is a super villain that could take down 10 men with his bare hands. And they are not just there to send a message to the public (although it can't be ruled out that there may be a conscious component of that going on). But they are there because his incarceration is high profile with a lot of supporters who might wish to attack the guards to free him AND a lot of people who might wish to hurt him becuase of the political symbol he has become. It could definitely be argued that the other guy should be as big of a deal, but he just isn't as high profile, so the risk is way lower there.

[–] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If they were concerned wouldn't they have him in a kevlar vest?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

That's fair. I'm sure it's more the concern for someone attacking them than him

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 127 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

i'm pro Luigi but if the whole thing is a setup they really should have picked a less photogenic character. that man is incapable of not looking like a boss.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 70 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I dont think it was an intentional setup, its was a rookie cop (for real, he was new) who arrested the first person he found where one person from the public claimed it was the perpetrator, and he didn't marandise him, searched his bag without him bring able to see it. And didn't find a gun. Arrested him (remember I said didn't marandise), called someone from new York, who came down 6 hours later, then they found a gun in his bag.

Yes Luigi was at a hostel in new York the day of the shooting. This is the only link they have. Similar, not the same looking jacket, other clothes were not the same. Was in the same city.

I dont believe Luigi was the shooter. If he was he woudlnt bring a gun to McDonald's

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I think he is the guy (not that it’s a bad thing).

The “anonymous tip” that lead to his capture was rather “illegal surveillance/technology the plebs don’t need to know about”. And they found the gun and manifesto in NY and planted it on him to make the case go smoother.

I honestly think they fucked up massively, thus the endless delays of the trial. In a high profile case like this, if the evidence was solid, they would have already crucified him.

I hope for a mistrial or acquittal, maybe it will be the final spark that ignites change in the US, and later the world, leading to the death of neoliberal capitalism.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Sounds like a much more complex reason than just incompetence, so both Occam's razor and Hanlons razor would support incompetence rather than a conspiracy

And if that conspiracy was true, why would they send a rookie cop?

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

agreed that no one goes to that much trouble to carry out an assassination then walks around with the murder weapon. plus i wouldn't trust a plastic homemade gun to begin with, but after it had been fired several times? that's literally trash.

the only mitigating factor I guess could be mental illness. Brian Thompson wasn't exactly an obvious target, as far as evil CEOs go, still seems weird to pick him

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 31 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Have you read the things United Healthcare has done and continues to do to people in the name of profit, and even if that's not enough, if your life or the life of someone you cared about got ruined because of the decisions of your insurance providers, that could be motivation enough for someone.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

hey calm down i don't work for them.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes can't you see, hes unemployed, so he can't work for them

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

you didn't read the whole username. I got fired from being a claquer, which means I can't get paid to clap in 19th century French theatre productions. Gosh!

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

No that would mean you are a claquer that is unemployed, I know because

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t understand how his right to a speedy trial is not being violated. He’s been in jail for how long and they still haven’t issued a ruling. Our justice system is fucked

Bruh, have you seen the court system? Trials could take years before it even begins.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 hours ago

Lots of people don't get anything resembling a speedy trial in the US.

[–] StarshotJohn@lemmy.world 59 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Smoke weed -> years in prison, Rape someone -> months in jail

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

is there a difference between prison and jail?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sort of. Jail is where people not privileged enough to afford bail await trial. And sometimes lesser sentences like if they're under a year or in relation to a misdemeanor are served.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

so jail is just a temporary imprisonment?

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Short-term is probably a better description. Although, sometimes people get forgotten in jail and spend years waiting for trial

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 4 hours ago

"Forgotten"

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

For misdemeanor sentences (under a year) you might do that in jail.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 46 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

The difference between killing a noble vs. killing a group of peasants.

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

And he killed a CEO, not a billionaire.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 hours ago

Ruling class. He might not have been a billionaire but still deserved it.

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

(unfortunately)

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

Yes. College students are 5 cents a dozen. They're useful to extract mortgage interest but they're still 5 cents a dozen.

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[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Moscow Idaho is a small college town that only has 35 pigs on staff it looks like. It would be a city wide event to move them in a comparable way, they'd be importing pigs from surrounding towns

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

if your meme is topical to current events, it helps to post a reference

was it this one? https://www.cnn.com/us/idaho-student-killings-timeline/index.html

no that was 2022, this is bleak and fucked. I don't want to sift through stories about kids getting killed.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

No, you're correct. Based on the names under the kid's faces in the meme, they are referring to the Moscow, ID killings.

Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle were students at the University of Idaho who lived at a nearby off-campus residence in Moscow, a college town of about 25,000 people.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

I lived in Moscow a few times. Now everyone knows about the place "oh Moscow, that's where that quadruple homicide happened yeah?" And that's literally all they know about it lol. For anyone curious part of why it was such big news is because murders don't happen too often there, like one every 5-10 years, so for it to be a quadruple is bonkers. It's the kind of town where people don't lock their houses before going to work, they leave their cars unlocked with keys in ignition to stop in a grocery store, if your bike is stolen you'll find it a few blocks away, and it's not uncommon for young kids to wander around alone because the community generally looks after them

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