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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because employment is about power dynamics more than doing a job.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It's also to deny worker's comp. Have no drug policies and blame workers who fuck up even when it's the companies fault for creating the conditions for it to happen, just because they took weed a bit

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You get it, last week we sacrificed 10 minutes of our break...not a single positive thing was said, we got shit on for taking the remaining 5 minutes.

Pay me a decent wage if you want to treat me like garbage, i already hate being there when people are acting normal.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a crime. You are entitled to a 15 minute break. If they shorten or remove that it is a federal crime. Next time that happens then document it and refuse to work. If they fire you, that's an easy lawsuit.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You are not entitled to any length of break under federal law. (Usa, obv, other countries different) However, you are entitled to the benefits that were listed when you employed, which mostly likely includes the 10 minute break. So it's still wage theft. For 20 minutes, it's probably better to try just documenting it and passing it over to the fed rather than suing.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 83 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Funny how people are defending it when it's not a thing in Canada and supermarkets are still functional

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 48 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Yeah American employer’s obsession with drug testing is weird. I’ve never even heard of an instance of a job drug testing here in Canada. Not in retail, not in a professional office position, nowhere.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 28 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty sure it's downstream from the war on drugs, which was motivated largely by racism (and anti left wing sentiment, to some extent)

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some employers have even begun testing for nicotine. They don't want anyone on staff who smokes because smokers take breaks.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Seriously? That’s absurd wow

[–] rolypolyman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

"We're going to start testing for piss, because we hear people take breaks for that too."

Yeah it's largely in the hospital world. It's a bad look for healthcare or some bullshit they say. I used to work in that world.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Ah yeah and that totally makes sense. Doing it for everything is just crazy though. Seems like a waste of time for everyone involved

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

Part of the reason has to do with insurance companies. The company gets a discount if they can prove there's a "drug free" workplace. It's not like it matters to the employees who likely don't receive insurance benefits because they're in an "uNskILleD jOb."

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What’s the comments condoning this are missing is that a lot of these places are talking about drug use outside of work.

It ain’t your damn business if I need to get stoned after work to deal with the stresses of life.

Thank god I’m a software developer now where the boss treats us like people that matter and not just numbers. He regularly tells us that we come first the work is secondary. He’s also great with clients and as a result we get insane amounts of repeat business and recommendations.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Software also has the wonderful balance of leverage.

"Do you do drugs? We have to test and fire you if you are."

"Do you want the release ready next week?"

"...."

"I'll see you on standup."

[–] Kyrrrr@mander.xyz 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean there is a point I wouldn't trust myself to be high around $800 of cookies

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh man.... what if I worked at Taco Bell....

[–] Lesrid@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

"One for me, one for you..."

[–] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wal-Mart said they drug tested, but then they never actually did. You think the zoning and FIFO was immaculate because I was sober? lmao

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

I went to McDonalds the other day for a rare treat. And because it was a rare treat I was disappointed beyond measure. The shred of loyalty I had left is gone until they rehire the stoners that gave me extra food.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago

Worked at one when I was young... Gonna have to admit that our best shelf facer (bring items to front of shelf and make pretty) was pretty much high as a kite on cocaine his entire shift

[–] Zolidus@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Guilty until proven innocent. In your cases, by having to submit bodily fluids to prove it. Us outside the US are baffled by this.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago

Answer: Because the employees need to be more miserable than the people shopping there.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

To keep the workers in line. If you believe that nobody's valuable enough for the company to let a transgression so minor slide, then are you going to organize a union? Let a shoplifter go? Call in sick without being on death's door?

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Your silence only incriminates you!

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 11 points 3 days ago (20 children)
  • Cash handling

  • Forklifts

  • Parking lots

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

All of those jobs exist outside of the US and manage just fine without drug testing

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

The authoritarians on the right don't care that ever other country is doing it wrong.

'merica!

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 days ago

I am outside the US and I don't think they usually are drug tested.

But that doesn't mean showing up high to work in a supermarket is OK.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But those are only reasons you shouldn’t be high during working hours.

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  • Walk in freezers
  • Big high power electrical doors/lifts/machines
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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

And on the other end of the fucked up shit spectrum, I had a boss at a pizza delivery place that refused to let me clock in if my "eyes weren't red enough."

He never came out and told me to go get high, he indirectly just told me to go get high. I was his best delivery driver when I had my weed.

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