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The bombed pager attacks in Lebanon show how embedded the imperialist world order is in daily life (criticalresist.substack.com)

submitted 1 year ago by CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can we call Israel, the terrorist state of Israel now?

[–] Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always have been. israel is formed on stolen Palestinian land by terrorism action.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... that phrase "formed on stolen land" ... to who reminds me that again?

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Settler-colonies recognize each other

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Way ahead of you!

[+] oxjox@lemmy.ml -22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This most certainly is not "World News". This is a self-promoting opinion piece bordering on conspiracy theory.

To me, this attack has the master’s prints all over it — the USA had to be involved.

Edit: I really don’t understand how this article is still up. This is written as a theory of how explosive material could have been inserted into pagers. I find the piece compelling and of interest but it is not news - it’s speculation. Is it now okay to post recipes from around the world in worldnews?

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it world news that "Israel" attacked Lebanon twice with compromised pagers, or do articles have to come from state-approved sources to be considered news?

This is a self-promoting opinion piece boring on conspiracy theory.

What makes you say "conspiracy theory" exactly?

[+] oxjox@lemmy.ml -13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You’re not a journalist and speculation is not news. You’re a basement dweller with no first hand account of anything.

There are appropriate places for your work. This is not the place.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't answer any of my questions and your hostility is more funny than anything. Do you also get this kneejerk reaction when the NYT or the Guardian publish an opinion piece calling to bomb Iran? Because these count as news, they're published in real newspapers after all!

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

News outlets very specifically include sections such as Opinion. They do not include speculative conspiracy theories on the front page (or anywhere) labeled as News.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the difference between an opinion section and what you deem "speculative conspiracy theories"?

As a matter of fact what's the difference between their front page news and the NYT directly quoting Bush making the case to go to war with Iraq? Weren't they also passing off speculative (Saddam was responsible for 9/11) conspiracy theories (Iraq had WMDs) as News?

Or is the problem that they are more famous than me thus their opinion is worth more than mine?

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s the difference between an opinion section and what you deem “speculative conspiracy theories”?

That's wholly irrelevant. If you want to be an investigative reporter and get real facts to report, have at it and post it as news. You have not done this. You are making guesses. Guesses, by someone with no qualifications or influence, are not news.

Anything spoken / written by a political leader is news. If you were someone who influenced millions of people, your opinion would be news.

If I sat down and wrote out a blog about how I believe the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated, would that be News? I mean, I guess you would argue that it is but I am telling you, by definition, it most certainly is not.

I don't know what makes you believe your armchair speculation is NEWS. The disconnect is so vast that my brain is breaking. I don't understand how people on this earth have chosen to ignore the definition of words to suit their own narrative and feelings.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know, I just find it funny that you care so much about this. It's just lemmy.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You’re not a journalist

from reading, don't believe you (oxjox) happen to even know who CriticalResist8 is let alone who he works for or anything else and that what you want to spread as truth about him (her?) really only is your weak personal shortthought quick-response-cause-i-can-insult-someone opinion. But of course i do not "know" if that is true about you even though i happen to believe that now. how could i know?

i didn't think CR8 was a journalist either, but i wouldn't state that i knew he wasn't until i actually know that as a fact. Do you know that as a fact? Did you check his identity, papers or such?

There are appropriate places for your work. This is not the place.

please, oxjox, do not spread untrue informations or unproven guesses as truth about other people here, lemmy is not a place for such or any type of insults. thank you for not doing such again !!

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

How broken are you people to not understand what is news and what is speculative opinion? This is not a debate. This is a matter of facts.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Did you check his identity, papers or such?

I did. https://criticalresist.substack.com/about

[–] redline@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what the fuck are you talking about

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

OP has written an article speculating how explosives could have been inserted into pagers. It’s not news, it’s speculation. Speculation is not news, it’s opinion.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Well they most certainly didn't use a separate RF transmitter. The pagers are connected and can be remote controlled that way. I heard elsewhere they also triggered the explosives by heating up the battery.