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I've got a bit lost with it cos a) it's unfathomable b) there's a lot of info

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t realize a panel of doctors concluded that she’s not at fault. Wow. So, is the general thinking that the courts got it wrong?

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So, is the general thinking that the courts got it wrong?

No, there is no "general thinking" here. It's a very complicated case and there's a lot of detail, and it's a shame that some people seem to be leaping on it as some salacious conspiracy theory.

The panel of doctors didn't "conclude that she's not at fault". They reviewed each individual incident, and determined that they didn't think there was sufficient evidence in each case that the baby died/was injured in the way that the prosecution alleges. If you take their evidence at face value, you could conclude that there isn't enough evidence to convict.

However the courts have generally been not enormously interested in that line of reasoning because it doesn't address all the other evidence against her, including a witness statement from a colleague who says they literally caught her in the act on one occasion, or the fact that she had a 40% incident rate for a type of fatal error (breathing tubes becoming dislodged) which generally only happens on less than 1% of shifts (i.e. it only ever seemed to happen when she was there).

So yeah, people need to chill and let the justice system grind this process out. Maybe her conviction will be overturned, maybe it won't. Not only is there no point in second guessing that, but when we're dealing with the depths of conflicting evidence and medical testimony even a nul conviction doesn't necessarily tell you much about whether she actually did it or not.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

I see. Those details weren't in the brief scanning that I did of a couple of articles, or if they were they weren't emphasized in the parts that I read. Sounds like there's a lot more there than I was able to pick up quickly.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Only a little. I think she didn't do it, though I'm basing my hunch on a stat that there's this one doctor out there with a very high mortality rate of patients, which seems alarming but once you realise that he's the only doctor around in a very remote part of the UK full of primarily elderly people, it makes a bit more sense.

For Lucy, I think I mostly just don't want to believe that anyone could be so cruel. I don't believe it.

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 2 points 8 hours ago

That's what I thought it's so horrible its unbearable. When you look into the evidence against her (not just what was reported in the press) it's overwhelming. Just reading the final few hours of the live feed on her cross examination tells you a lot