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Need at least the camera, if not that plus a microphone and speakers, not the lock or bell.

Libre Software (Obviously) + End-to-End Encryption

Small and easy to hide, so the camera isn't stolen, attacked or bypassed.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion: an actual doorbell.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Add (offline, regular) camera.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

add a vandal proof camera on top

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ops. Missed the actual details. Sorry. How small you want it to be? Any dimentions?

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No specific measurements.

https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam-pan

Something like this which has a privacy mode where it rotates and hides could be good.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Vandal proof camera is easy to find, but with privacy mode? I don't think such product exist yet.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I literally just linked an example.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's not vandal proof. What I mean by vandal proof is IK rated, like IK10.

Best I can find is https://www.hikvision.com/en/products/IP-Products/PTZ-Cameras/Value-Series/ds-2de2a404iw-de3-w-s6-/

You will have to set the camera pointing default to a non sensitive area, likely ground if you mount it directly above your doorbell, and only tilt up when it get some event triggers like motion (feet), audio (it does have a mic), doorbell (via home assistant), other cameras (mition alerts), or something else.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I see, thank you!

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I can't remotely see if an important package was delivered with a regular doorbell.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If that is a big problem, one alternative is to get a post office box.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

That's seems like a good idea, considering the plethora of videos online of packages being stolen with an obvious camera watching the thieves.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also can't see who took my package with a regular doorbell. But apparently having security cameras on your property is dystopian surveillance.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Having security cameras that malicious businesses sell so they can scrape your data and share video with the police without your informed consent is a dystopian nightmare.

Having your own security system that is only accessed by you and those you intentionally share it with is not.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

I think that is the normal choice

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You want Reolink + Frigate

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, I have this too. Works fine.

[–] BRINGit34@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I can stand behind reolink. Quality products at really good prices.

I have personally installed their cameras for multiple people and never really have issues out of them.

And check with your local telephone co-op and see if they will hook you up with free ethernet cable. All you need then is a crimper and some ends.

Love these cameras

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Cameras seem too big and obvious, easy to attack.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They have a doorbell: https://reolink.com/__/product/reolink-video-doorbell/

It doesn't really get smaller than that.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, I see, thank you!

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can use a Wyze Video Doorbell 1 and flash it with thingino firmware. Then hook it up to a Frigate home surveillance server.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, looks good, thank you!

Will that run on a Pi? Can it shut off when I'm at home?

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Frigate can definitely run on a Pi. It can also integrate with Home Assistant which can run on a Pi. As for turning itself off when you're home, I don't know.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Best answer, thanks again!

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help out

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Reolink has a local encrypted video doorbell.

[–] SecurityPro@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I use Eufy doorbells, locks, and cameras. I realize they are a Chinese company, but that is almost unavoidable until the US gets back to actually manufacturing tech.

The reason I like Eufy is the local storage and no required subscription fees.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago

Isn't this the company that not only got busted for uploading continuous footage but got caught publicly exposing that footage to anyone with VLC?

I if I am remembering correctly you should throw away the device immediately

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Harder for China than the US to attack in the US.

[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here's a very similar question I asked here a few months ago: "Privacy respecting ring doorbell" https://lemm.ee/post/8165932

[–] DARbarian@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

Been hunting for the same thing for years

[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

It might contribute in some small aesthetic way to deterring them, which seems a much better ambition.

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