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Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My favorite one that I've heard is: "ban it". This has a lot of problems... let's say despite the billions of dollars of lobbyists already telling Congress what a great thing AI is every day, that you manage to make AI, or however you define the latest scary tech, punishable by death in the USA.

Then what happens? There are already AI companies in other countries busily working away. Even the folks that are very against AI would at least recognize some limited use cases. Over time the USA gets left behind in whatever the end results of the appearance of AI on the economy.

If you want to see a parallel to this, check out Japan's reaction when the rest of the world came knocking on their doorstep in the 1600s. All that scary technology, banned. What did it get them? Stalled out development for quite a while, and the rest of the world didn't sit still either. A temporary reprieve.

The more aggressive of you will say, this is no problem, let's push for a worldwide ban. Good luck with that. For almost any issue on Earth, I'm not sure we have total alignment. The companies displaced from the USA would end up in some other country and be even more determined not to get shut down.

AI is here. It's like electricity. You can not wire your house but that just leads to you living in a cabin in the woods while your neighbors have running water, heat, air conditioning and so on.

The question shouldn't be, how do we get rid of it? How do we live without it? It should be, how can we co-exist with it? What's the right balance? The genie isn't going back in the bottle, no matter how hard you wish.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would love to see regulation, that any contet created by AI cannot be used commercially.

I love e.g. that parents can make their own children books, but nobody should profit from all the stolen work of artists.

[–] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even that constitutes theft on some level. It devalues children's books and the talents required to create them. It disincentivizes parents to go support actual authors and illustrators, and anything they make with AI is based on stolen intellectual property.

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[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I think two main things need to happen: increased transparency from AI companies, and limits on use of training data.

In regards to transparency, a lot of current AI companies hide information about how their models are designed, produced, weighted and use. This causes, in my opinion, many of the worst effects of current AI. Lack of transparency around training methods mean we don't know how much power AI training uses. Lack of transparency in training data makes it easier for the companies to hide their piracy. Lack of transparency in weighting and use means that many of the big AI companies can abuse their position to push agendas, such as Elon Musk's manipulation of Grok, and the CCP's use of DeepSeek. Hell, if issues like these were more visible, its entirely possible AI companies wouldn't have as much investment, and thus power as they do now.

In terms of limits on training data, I think a lot of the backlash to it is over-exaggerated. AI basically takes sources and averages them. While there is little creativity, the work is derivative and bland, not a direct copy. That said, if the works used for training were pirated, as many were, there obviously needs to be action taken. Similarly, there needs to be some way for artists to protect or sell their work. From my understanding, they technically have the legal means to do so, but as it stands, enforcement is effectively impossible and non-existant.

[–] CCAirWater@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Our current 'AI' is not AI. It is not.

It is a corporate entity to shirk labor costs and lie to the public.

It is an algorithm designed to lie and the shills who made it are soulless liars, too.

It only exists for corporations and people to cut corners and think they did it right because of the lies.

And again, it is NOT artificial intelligence by the standard I hold to myself.

And it pisses me off to no fucking end.

I personally would love an AI personal assistant that wasn't tied to a corporation listening to every fkin thing I say or do. I would absolutely love it.

I'm a huge Sci-Fi fan, so sure I fear it to a degree. But, if I'm being honest, AI would be amazing if it could analyze how I learned math wrong as a kid and provide ways to fix it. It would be amazing if it could help me routinely create schedules for exercise and food and grocery lists with steps to cook and how all of those combine to effect my body. It would be fantastic if it could point me to novels and have a critical debate about the inner works with a setting of being a contrarian or not so I can seek to deeply understand the novels.

It sounds like what our current state of AI has right? No. The current state is a lying machine. It cannot have critical thought. Sure, it can give me a schedule of food/exercise, but it might tell me I need to lift 400lbs and eat a thousand turkeys to meet a goal of being 0.02grams heavy. It might tell me 5+7 equals 547,032.

It doesn't know what the fuck it's talking about!

Like, ultimately, I want a machine friend who pushes me to better myself and helps me understand my own shortcomings.

I don't want a lying brick bullshit machine that gives me all the answers but they are all wrong because it's just a guesswork framework full of 'whats the next best word?'

Edit: and don't even get me fucking started on the shady practices of stealing art. Those bastards trained it on people's hard work and are selling it as their own. And it can't even do it right, yet people are still buying it and using it at every turn. I don't want to see another shitty doodle with 8 fingers and overly contrasted bullshit in an ad or in a video game. I don't want to ever hear that fucking computer voice on YouTube again. I stopped using shortform videos because of how fucking annoying that voice is. It's low effort nonsense and infuriates the hell out of me.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

License it's usage

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Most importantly, I wish countries would start giving a damn about the extreme power consumption caused by AI and regulate the hell out of it. Why do we need to lower our monitors refresh rate while there is a ton of energy used by useless AI agents instead that we should get rid of?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Not much, just don't build it over theft.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Ban it until the hard problem of consciousness is solved.

[–] Ludrol@szmer.info 1 points 1 month ago

A breakthrough in AI Alignment reaserch.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

I'm beyond the idea that there could or would be any worldwide movement against Ai, or much of anything if we're comparing healthcare, welfare and education reform. People are tuned out and numb.

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