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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You would call the polish uprising in ww2 as bad as Hamas if it happened today

[–] vxx@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Did they use polish children as meat shields? Did they rape woman and dragged them through the streets?

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Enemy of my enemy can still be enemy.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Literally. Hamas has done basically nothing to help the people. The people of Gaza are the heroes Hamas and Israel are just a couple of monsters victimizing them.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hamas is the perfect partner for Israeli genocidaires. That's why Israel funded them in the first place.

[–] Merva@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

They definitely have a symbiotic relationship.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

If Fatah was still in power, Israel would’ve had a much more difficult time in demonizing Gaza in their propaganda outlets.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They also wouldn't need to, because the West wouldn't give a shit about Gaza without Hamas activities to put Palestine in the news. There's a reason Hamas won that election in 2006.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (12 children)

They also wouldn’t need to, because the West wouldn’t give a shit about Gaza without Hamas activities to put Palestine in the news.

... Gaza was a big fucking deal back when Fatah was in power, and it was when Fatah was at the head of things that the peace process came closest to becoming reality, with significant Western interest and support.

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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (8 children)
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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Literally. Hamas has done basically nothing to help the people.

Not directly, but it's no coincidence that the Palestine solidarity movement only expands after Israel uses Hamas as an excuse to slaughter Gazans. Since at least 2006 Hamas has been a very important catalyst for the advancement of the Palestinian cause (which isn't mutually exclusive with them being massive pricks, that's also true).

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

That's like a Make-a-Wish kid thanking cancer for making them famous Etc. I think most Make-a-Wish kids would just wish that they didn't have cancer. Hamas has literally done nothing for the Palestinians since they managed to gain power. Just make things worse while working in cahoots with Israel.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Shouldn’t call them “heroes”…

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Of course he engages in name calling. He thinks I care much more about his community than I really do. I haven’t checked on VTC for weeks.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago

Please don't use this community to vent or stir up drama

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

vegantheoryclub? lol, who goes to that instance?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Anyone who has an opinion that differs from the VTC admin.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Man I don't care what anyone says nothing's going to redeem that fascist loving instance.

[–] licheas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno... maybe a few server fires?

how many servers do they have?

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[–] einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (5 children)

ngl probably russians, spewing hate online to further conflictand

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

unlikely considering how small lemmy is. Waste of resources.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, they're here.

This is one place they test and refine candidate tactics, as well as roll them out to the more fringe on the left.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Not everyone is a russian troll, bad people exist everywhere.

And especially considering it's VTC, if I have to ascribe a group to them without proof, it's the Zizians.

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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

I pay extra attention to him because his instance is the only active vegan one.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are the Haredi the ones who believe that Israel cannot exist before the Messiah comes?

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, nothing this person is saying is crazy if you understand the context of their sect's belief.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Just because you understand it doesn't mean it's not crazy...

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Could’ve left that part out…

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