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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

One thing I've noticed with newer movies is they do a lot more "tell, don't show" than old movies.

For example, compare the live action Disney Cinderella to the original animated version. The live action version is mostly a voiceover telling the story of Cinderella. They literally say "Her stepsisters weren't very good at art or music" and then have a scene showing them being bad at art and music. The animated version spent the first 20 minutes or so like a Tom & Jerry cartoon.

And this is across movies. I watched Predator recently and there wasn't a lot of exposition about how they're there to fight communists or whatever. You pick that up in snippets of dialog in between the action.

It really does feel like movies are dumbing down.

[–] dumbass@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago

One thing I've noticed with newer movies is they do a lot more "tell, don't show" than old movies.

Main character seeing old friend: Well if it isn't my old friend Daniel, we used to roam these streets as kids, I used to have dinner at your house every day, you were like my brother, I would have done anything for you, I haven't seen you since our other old friend Jake died mysteriously, remember when we used to play videogames all night and made that life long pact that if "HE" returns we will do what it takes to send him back to the world where he emerged from when we were kids and lived right next door to each other, our mothers were best friends until the incident but they never stopped us from being life long best friends forever, we used to play in the streets all night, me you Daniel and Chris, the rat Pac they called us, best friends for life.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like Dune was a good outlier to this. It's the only movie I've seen in theater in the last few years and I really enjoyed not having everything explained to me

[–] Zagorath@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they do a lot more “tell, don’t show” than old movies

Geez the Netflix Avatar adaptation (a show, not movie, but still) was so bad for this. Despite actually having more runtime and fewer distinct plot points (due to the removal of and consolidation of different side-plots) than the cartoon it was based on, it spent less time showing us why characters think and feel how they do, and straight-up told us every single thing.

[–] Renacles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I love listening to the original intro 3 times in the first episode.

I would have never known that the 4 nations lived in harmony until the fire nation attacked, or that the Avatar, master of all 4 elements was the only one who could stop them.

I also love learning that Aang wants to eat banana cakes and goof off with his friends instead of being the Avatar by him outright saying it instead of us meeting ANY of these friends in the first place.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

I feel like they make movies to appease the hot take internet culture. If a few people don't understand how a guy with magic powers in a room full of cloning tanks could be brought back from the dead, you end up with endless "Somehow Palpatine returned" memes and it becomes a whole thing. So they've compensated (maybe over-compensated) and make sure every detail is explained fully to avoid that kind of reaction. They also have to make sure they make jokes about something being corny before people on the internet make the lame jokes.

Rise of Skywalker was probably the last popcorn movie where there was a lot of "show don't tell" going on and pretty much all of the commentary about it on the internet indicates people think it's wrong to do that. To be sure there were other problems with that movie, but people got very fixated on criticizing the decision made to not over-explain.

Somehow... movies have to explain every little detail now.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the biggest reason is that the actors were allowed to act together. Modern movies use so many digital effects that actors aren't even on set together sometimes. It's hard to have the same emotions looking at a green screen and a guy in a morph suit.

[–] JonnyJest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just for the first one, right? I remember Ian Mckellen had a breakdown on set because he was sitting in front of the table at Bag End with nothing around him but green screen and was struggling without any other actors.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

IIRC that was on the set of one of the Hobbit movies.

The Lord of the Rings was shot mostly using practical effects.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

But Lord of the rings is a modern movie?

[–] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is a movie that came out 23 years ago still modern?

[–] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Hey, fuck you

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, the word we are searching for is contemporary. Technically all films are modern, but not contemporary. Though modern has expanded definition to include it generally as well but I like to explore language :)

[–] sixpants@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Watching it with wife and son. Haven’t seen it in 20 years. Read books as kid.

Only 45 minutes in and we could barely make ourselves stop (bed time).

That said, I never bothered to finish the 3rd book and I don’t remember the 3rd movie. Turned into a typical war film/book from what I recall. Little interest to me.

I hope my memory is wrong.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Turned into a typical war film/book from what I recall. Little interest to me.

What? I'm honestly doubting you ever read Tolkien at all.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Your memory is wrong and your username is ostentatious. No-one needs more than four pant.

[–] goatbeard@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Howard Shore is the answer

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is an answer I'm not seeing here enough. The score for LotR just FORCES you to feel the feelings. Don't wanna be happy? Too bad, we're in the Shire bitch.