Should also include: don’t invite violence against people who simply own cars.
this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2023
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I don't think it needs to be as specific as that why bit just don't incite violence. Period. Otherwise, it's making a statement about the community as a whole. (also, this is already covered by the rules)
Yep. Even the Netherlands makes their car appropriate paths great for cars.
Cars are still needed for distances too far to walk or to cycle at times when public transport doesn't run
I wish it weren't so, but it is so.
A blanket rule like that is deeply troubling. I'm glad the mods ignored you.
Our goal is to peacefully encourage more people to cycle and convince car owners to use their car for less trips when viable to do so. A lot of people own cars, would calling them Nazis really help our cause?
My vision is we make cyclists and public transit users look like responsible happy citizens and attract jealousy of those stuck in traffic.
Is this community good for UK citizens too?
People from the UK are welcome here.
How about "no private cars" at all? period. you can do public transport, commercial transport...all you want...but none owns a private car. sure, it wont create many jobs for drivers as robocars will drive them, but also it will keep ppl from driving cars.
Could we find some way to cut down on posts like "Double parked driver in Talula, Illinois" and it's just a pic/video of some dumb car?
While I share the sentiment, I don't know think we all have to be notified EVERY time a driver ANYWHERE does something rude/inconsiderate.
The posts that are most helpful in this community are the ones addressing policy, and notifying us when governments or corporations are doing something that unfairly prioritizes cars. There are too many cars to count, but we can target governments much more easily.
One question, can we include bikers as well ? (As in motorbikes)
They're quite the menace as well
Automoderation is rather uncompassionate and emotionless. I didn't leave Reddit just to join Reddit lite, I don't like it.
I'm concerned about the definitions of some of the terms in these rules
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What does it mean to be kind? Do you have to agree with everyone? Are you allowed to say the fuck word?
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What does it mean to attack other people? Are we talking ad hominem, or is making an argument with a stern tone of voice an attack?
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Where is the line between opinion and action drawn? Is it okay to attack people for driving cars? That's not an opinion, it's an action, and it kills people, but I have a feeling certain people would say no anyway
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What is a double post? Do you mean repost or crosspost?
Okay I will try to give a bit more insight and it seems that we should add some explanations to the rules.
- You don't have to agree with everyone. Disagreements are a fundemental part of a community and its important that we can discuss about things. Of course the fuck word is still allowed. In my opinion at least in the context of this community. I meant its in the name.
- That is a really hard thing to differenciate for me currently. And I am working on it. But nontheless I would say that you can make a point, probably a far better one if you do not attack the person directly. You can attack the believes or the things that they write but not the person behind that. If you think someone else is going to far and you feel the need to get onto an personal level, you won't win anything.
- The line is also not easy, I understand what you mean. It was meant by me in a more general sense to like what I wrote in the point above. We should all be able to make our points and discredit other things without being dicks to other people.
- Could rename that clearer. Crossposts are completly okay so far. I wrote that in because we had sometimes, but not very often the case several people posted the same video in a short time. Its just there that we can make an easier call on that and delete things that are double. So probably no reposts?
Thank you very much for your input and I hope I could make my thought process a bit clearer
Thanks for the response, that all sounds reasonable. One more question:
What happens if I attack someone's actions and they feel personally attacked? For example, I might say that driving a petrol car, in 100% of cases, will contribute to a child's chance of developing lung cancer. Another commenter who drives a car may then subjectively feel that they are being called a child murderer. I have stated an unbiased fact, but they have come to a completely logical conclusion and feel upset by that conclusion. So do we act as though I stated the emotional conclusion, or just the unbiased fact?