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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

A friend of mine is a video game developer, works for a Microsoft studio, has somehow survived like 3 or 4 layoffs and closures the last 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They laid off 2000 last year and the CEO gave himself a 30 million dollar raise. If he fires 7000 this year, he'll give himself a 100 million dollar raise?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

They're also hiring much more than they're laying off. They gained like 84k employees in the last 5-6 years (includes like 25k layoffs).

The bonus was also basically all stocks, so if the company does well, he gets more money. If it fails he gets less.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, the bonus was all stocks so he can take a loan at 0% using the stocks as collateral and not have to pay taxes on it. If they paid him an actual bonus in real dollars he would have to pay taxes like one of us poors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

the bonus was all stocks so he can take a loan at 0% using the stocks as collateral and not have to pay taxes on it.

This is not accurate. Stock grants are treated as ordinary income on the date they vest. Sure after income tax is paid, you can do loans against it etc. But vesting of stock is a tax event. This is a common misunderstanding online.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe they shouldn't over-hire by tens of thousands for the sake of "growth"? "They hired more than they fired" isn't a good thing when they fire thousands of people. it just means the company is willfully and apathetically churning through the labor force while making money hand-over-fist and increasing C-suite compensation.

The bonus was also basically all stocks, so if the company does well, he gets more money. If it fails he gets less.

... so? Why is this relevant? A bonus is a bonus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe they shouldn’t over-hire by tens of thousands

Or maybe they hired people with different roles. The article says they want to reduce the management structure. Microsoft probably didn't hire 100k managers these last couple of years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If for some reason you feel the need to fire thousands of people all at once when the company is actively expanding and making a profit, then you hired too many people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Sometimes , probably always, MBA types want to show more profit and so make cuts to staff because labour is always the biggest expense...even if those employees could increase productivity in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The bonus was also basically all stocks, so if the company does well, he gets more money. If it fails he gets less.

Is this supposed make people feel "better", buddy?

Satya the creep has skin in this game boys, pack it up, work is done 🤡

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's only fair /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

What shitbags