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As posted about recently in [email protected] and [email protected] it seems that @[email protected]'s stance on transphobia has not changed and his apology only seems to be that he was sorry he got caught and that someone leaked the DM. This is concerning for an admin of Lemmy.ml and the leader of the project. I don't think this means we should stop using Lemmy, it's open-source and even if they embed donation links, they can be stripped out in our fork. But it does make me wonder if we should consider defederating lemmy.ml on that merit. Since if they hold such views on trans issues, it's very likely they won't have any desire to act on that type of transphobia being expressed on their instance.

I know that Lemmy.ml has and does handle overt transphobia well, but I can't speak to their ability to handle less overt or thinly veiled transphobia, and this incident doesn't inspire much confidence either.

Edit: Since some people haven't seen the original. I decided to include it here. Warning, it contains transphobia, if you don't want to see that, don't open the spoiler.

CW: Transphobic talking points

I'd really like to hear Feedback from Blahaj's local community on this, I'm not as interested in outside opinions here so please try to refrain from top-level commenting if you aren't from lemmy.blahaj.zone (I will ignore them if you comment anyway from a remote instance).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'd really hate to lose [email protected] honestly, it's the largest community for Linux stuff, and a big part of what I spend my time on Lemmy doing. While the stuff Nutomic has said is awful, I'd also really like to see instances of moderation on lemmy.ml that are problematic/transphobic before making the call to defederate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

[email protected] is within striking distance of beating [email protected] in MAUs

Comm Subscriber count is misleading and can easily be full of dead accounts

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's fair, and you're right that it's possible, but as well it's possible all those accounts come online in a 3-4 month rotation.

The more important point for me though is whether or not there are transphobic moderation instances. I know they can be really abrasive, I've seen the PTB threads, but none of that seems to have been major instances of transphobia that I can tell. I'm all for defederation in those cases when admins refuse to moderate transphobic dogwhistles and the like, I was super supportive of the feddit.uk defed for example. But one admin on a team of many saying something transphobic that's a personal view doesn't quite reach that threshold for me. Especially on a larger instance where I think we have to consider the ramifications of fracturing the community a lot more in my opinion.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They do indeed have a history of problematic moderation in general, though I'm not sure about how much they let thinly veiled transphobia slip there. There's not much of it to begin with and can be difficult to spot at first.

I’d really hate to lose [email protected] honestly

I pointed out in the other comment two alternatives to the Linux comm. [email protected] and [email protected], both have decent activity and could be more active if more users started posting.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

I never really liked his ideas, trans-related or not, but why the hell was he saying all of that just for a (presumably) message about a Firefox plugin???????

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

not because its only transphobia, but the obvious misinformation they believe in, much like right wingers do. glad i can block both hexbear and ml instances.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Yep, bad views don't just stop at one particular thing. Flagship instances often go this way sadly, and thus should be defederated from unless they significantly improve.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Migrate to piefed. Donate to piefed.

This shit ends when the problematic and cringe Lemmy devs lose the power of owning the platform. There are other mature activitypub projects, and literally all we need to do is support them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

The problem with moving to another server software is that there's a much bigger developer ecosystem around Lemmy. Other projects simply can't match that.

Like, there are multiple Lemmy clients in Google Play and F-Droid, for example. There isn't even one for PieFed in either store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why is it not enough to just switch Lemmy server or block ml instances?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Lemmy.ml doesn't tolerate transphobia regardless of nutomic's views and probably has a bigger trans userbase than even blahaj. Stop stirring drama.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Admin Ping for @[email protected] to weigh in on this issue with her thoughts and opinions on the matter.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What statement about transgender people are we talking about?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Sigh, if you must know, here is the context:

CW: Transphobic talking points

I thought more people had seen this since it's older and pinned in MeanwhileOnGrad.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Would be so good to see

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Lemmy.today has already been defederated from blahaj.zone because they had some nasty spam and transphobia problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

give away for free

I'm assuming this is under one of the several threads soliciting donations? Just because it doesn't require payment to use doesn't absolve them of any problems people might have that would keep them from handing over money in other capacities.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

It's a bad argument yet devs always seem to want to hide behind it. Free things do not allow someone or somemany to just support horrific things and everybody else has to be okay with that.

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