Jokes on you, even when my fridge is filled to the brim it still doesn’t have any food for me, not even after the third time checking in an hour.
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This is exactly how it feels camping on the last day trying to summon a meal from that can of tuna, and some well expired shitty white bread.
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People have survived millions of years without refrigerators. Most products don't get bad in a few hours just because they're kept at 8° instead of 6°. Granted, there's some stuff you want to be careful with, like raw poultry and minced meat, but neither the pasteurized milk nor the cured sausage will go bad in just a few hours, even at room temperature. Even if they would, you'd usually see, smell and taste it.
If it was as bad as you say, millions of pupils would die each summer from food poisoning because of the sandwich they carry unrefrigerated with them the whole morning until the lunch break. The temperature in an average teenagers backpack is much higher than that in a refrigerator that has been off for a few hours.
People haven't survived millions of years.
Not sure if you believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old, or you're trying to say that all people that lived 150 years ago are dead by now, but humankind has been roaming this planet for more than two million years without refrigerators.
And quite successfully, if you consider that they conquered all continents without refrigerators, except the one where you really don't need a fridge.
I am not the person you replied to but I believe they were referring to Homo sapiens being said to have emerged roughly 2-300k years ago, so 0.3 million, not "millions" (plural). Homo the genus might be a mil or two, but not the species, although you said "humankind" thus implying the species.
Maybe it's just lost in translation. In my native language we'd call homo erectus etc. (primal) humans, so for me they are part of the humankind although they're not modern humans.
I don't know what I expected when I started scrolling through comments, but I certainly didn't expect "how long humanity has survived depends on how you define 'people' "
except the one where you really don’t need a fridge
Clear evidence that Big Refrigerator is actually holding back our true potential!
We are not homo erectus though. So that's a rather silly comparison.
I'm pretty homo erectus 😎
I never said that you are homo erectus. That doesn't change the fact that homo erectus were humans. And even if you really stick to the believe that humankind only started with homo sapiens some 20000 years ago, it doesn't matter for the argument that people have survived a long time without being able to keep their food at a constant 4°C.
While what we currently define as humanity has only been around for about 300k years, this person might have gotten a definition that includes hominids in that, which would go back something liker 6 million years, and our direct "branch" something like 2 million.
You’re so smart for pointing out their mistake! Boy what a dumbass that commenter was to write all that and mess up that detail, it just ruins the whole argument completely
sandwich they carry unrefrigerated with them the whole morning until the lunch break.
Wait, so you don't put an ice pack in your lunch box?? Or at least a frozen gogurt?
I've never heard of children putting an ice pack in their lunchbox. No one did this when I was in school.
Usually no, and it's fine. If there's something particularly sensitive, then yes.
Lol an ultra-processed sandwich (that's the bread, cheese, and meat) in a lunchbox for a few hours, hopefully with an ice pack, is leagues different from eating iffy chicken from a box that may or may not have been warmer for half the night.
No one's saying you'll definitely die from it, but you're risking salmonella. I doubt anyone who's suffered through it doesn't regret saving those few bucks... "When in doubt, throw it out."
bud did you just completely skip over the part of the comment that says you should be careful about some stuff, like raw poultry or minced meat?
Actually, I did not! And I didn't say raw. Even cooked chicken should be used or consumed within 2-4 days: https://www.foodsafety.gov/food-safety-charts/cold-food-storage-charts
That's from when the US government was staffed with enough unbiased, science-following people! Also, it's only when stored in a functional, temperature-controlled space. And yes, of course it errs on the side of safety, so home chefs and restaurant-goers alike can be confident they won't kill someone. You're obviously free to stretch and even ignore those recommendations. But I don't envy the time you'll have if you get unlucky...
The sourdough bread, the butter, the cottage cheese or the meatloaf that my sandwiches consisted of weren't "ultra-processed". Neither was the boiled egg, the cut up fruits or vegetables or the homemade yoghurt. And of cause I didn't have an ice pack in my lunch box. I know nobody who had one.
I don't know what you have in your fridge, but I bet you 90% of the contents of 90% of the American fridges are more processed than what an average German school kid has in its lunchbox. So just throw out the 10% that aren't and feast on the remaining 90%.
Naw, people in this thread are the same "just trust science!" ones, except when it comes to things they have a bias about. Look, I get it: you've been using unsafe food practices since living on your own and you've never gotten sick. That doesn't mean you never will, or that anyone who eats your improperly-prepared food won't!
It's okay to learn and grow. My own mother, retired from the healthcare industry had to learn that a freezer is not a time capsule, you can't eat decades-old food with no consequences...
EDIT: The minutes-old downvote with no sources or facts proves my point tenfold. You have nothing, just your anecdotal feeelings.
so you're telling me that leftover pizza on the counter is no good the next morning? it's still just as tasty, maybe even improved by mingling and cohering of flavors. take my room temperature pizza from my cold dead hands!
Pizza, with cured meat such as pepperoni is probably fine. I wouldn't risk it with chicken though...
wait.. I'm definitely not a food scientist but you are telling me pizza + toppings is fine but some (already) cooked leftover unrefrigerated chicken is not?
I said "probably" fine. I am not a scientist either, but cured toppings like pepperoni, ham, sausage are already "old meat", and are much less likely to give you salmonella than chicken, even cooked.
You can't eat decades-old food with no consequences
Except when you can. There have been cases where they have found canned foods from decades ago and when they lab-tested and taste-tested them they were still safe to eat (albeit a bit bland). The biggest danger with intact cans that are not inflated it that you might get lead poisoning if the can is older than ~1990
That's the whole point, you have to use your senses (common and biological). You can't assume that something is unsafe to eat just because it's beyond its best before date or has been stored at 5° instead of 4° for a few hours. At the same time you can't blindly trust that every food is fine just because it has been stored correctly.
Use your senses! I know doing that is not very famous these days, but you should try it sometimes.
So instead of "If in doubt throw it out" I'd suggest "If in doubt, throw it out, but if its still tasty, throw it in the pasty".