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Until now this would have been a stupid question - this is my home. But we're in a strange timeline. My background is I was born in the UK, met first husband, married, got green card, that went tits up, divorced, met husband 2, found forever love, married, naturalized in 2021. Have my passport and everything.

It's my dad's birthday, and he lives in the UK. I want to go back and celebrate, but I'm nervous about reentry into the US. I naturalized during the Biden presidency, and I am a Democrat, I feel nervous that I have a target on my back. I have a home and pets here. Am I ridiculous for worrying or should I be cautious about leaving right now?

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

update: Blue sky users are apparently receiving threatening letters using the phrase their "parole is terminated" despite being us citizens; I can't confirm anything, but I'm looking into it now.

so far naturalized citizens are not being harassed or detained.

everyone i've heard about being turned away or deported so far has a green card, visa or is in the US illegally.

it's certainly a terrible situation and a slippery slope, but as far as I'm aware naturalized citizens are not facing that treatment yet.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

https://bsky.app/profile/nicolemicheroni.bsky.social/post/3lml5ctrmmc2u

Some personal news: the Department of Homeland Security has given me, an immigration lawyer born in Newton, Massachusetts, seven days to leave the U.S. Does anyone know if you can get Italian citizenship through great-grandparents?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Italy and Ireland were like the last two countries that you could claim citizenship through great-grandparents, but I think Italy just ended it this year.

thanks for posting this, it's the first I've heard of maybe a US citizen being deported.

I'm looking into related posts to find corroboration and explanation for the term "parole" used here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's the first I've heard of maybe a US citizen being deported.

It's been happening for years. From the Washington Post:

The U.S. government does not release data on how often ICE wrongfully detains or deports U.S. citizens. But investigations by media outlets, research institutes and oversight agencies have revealed that ICE has arrested, detained, deported and issued detainers — requests to local jails to hold a person in custody — for thousands of citizens since the agency was created in 2003. One 2011 study estimated that roughly 1 to 1.5 percent of deportees are U.S. citizens.

https://archive.is/20250411190043/https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/05/us-citizens-deported-immigration/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks, I meant intentional deportations of US citizens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nothing says they weren’t intentional.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

nothing says they were.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

From what I read itsly "ended" it, but it's not confirmed permanent yet, there will be a vote 60 days after march 28 to make it permanent. Their new restrictions are pretty extreme though. I would expect the vote to not pass, but some other version of this will get passed at some point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

oh shoot I just thought they got rid of the "great" part and you can still become a citizen if you have italian grandparents, what are the new restrictions?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

immigration lawyer born in Newton, Massachusetts,

I'm guessing they intended to send this notice to one of this lawyer's clients, rather than the lawyer themself?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

On the one hand, it has to be a mistake, right?

On the other, malicious harassment of an immigration lawyer with a "foreign" sounding name is exactly the sort of thing you'd expect right now.

Absolute best case scenario for this administration is that they are prone to making stupid, dangerous, embarrassing mistakes that will end up getting someone hurt or worse. And that's giving them way more benefit of the doubt than they've earned.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

not with regard to this specific situation, since white people have been deported or turned away due to their visa status, but under this administration anyone not white should feel way more targeted than they might be under other administrations.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Very. We have a Mad King ruling.

People are being deported to foreign gulags without Due Process: which means, without a trial.

Stay away.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a citizen you should be safe. Are you white? That makes it a little safer. Probably wouldn't hurt if you're attractive and female...

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fuck I hate this timeline

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

That Canadian actress was white and attractive. The German held for several days without sleep was also white and attractive (also a man in a relationship with a man, but I don’t know how likely it is that CBP could have known that).

It’s probably protective, but it’s not sufficient

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wanna be mad at these comments but they're so true. I'm white and female, so maybe I'll be fine. But it's so fucking sad that this is the case. I'm not just worried for me, but for all the people who made this place home. A lot of minorities in that group.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

pretty risky as even white canadians are detained.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

FWIW, I have multiple things I should go to in the USA coming up, and neither I nor my family are willing to risk it. My two (young adult) children and I have dual USA - EU country citizenship. My wife had a green card when she lived with me in NYC for over a decade, but turned it in when we moved back long ago. These facts (let alone what my posting history is like) are just too much for us. We won't risk it.

It's kind of like a plane crash: very unlikely to happen but you are equally unlikely to walk away unhurt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ppl are saying it's fine if you aren't brown but i still wouldn't ive read about Canadian Americans (who are white) who couldn't reenter.

While risk is much higher if you aren't white it's just not a good idea to leave for anyone if you want to return

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It honestly seems very unpredictable. Anecdotally the worst behaviour seems to have been at the most republican states but not exclusively.

For example the Australian who had a work visa and lived in the US for years flew in to Texas where it was arbitrarily nullified. There are plenty of stories of people crossing southern and northern borders and being detained by ICE. Thats included British, German, Australian and French cirizens that ive seen in the UK press coverage anyway.

As a US citizen you shouldnt have an issue but I'd probably travel through a major hub like JFK in New York to be safer. I wouldn't re-enter through Republican states like Florida, Texas, nor probably Washington DCs airports. Obviously travel on your US passport.

You should he OK as a US citizen but it does look like there is a breakdown in the rule of law in the US. People imagine that means riots and the police not able to keep control, but in this case its the government and government agencies doing whatever they want and the legal system unable to stop them.

I'm a UK citizen and am not intending to travel to the US - I often cone for a major conference but having seen what happened to the French scientist who had his phone searched and then was denied entry for criticising Trump I won't be risking it. I'm sure a lot of other UK and Europeans feel the same way.

Sadly the only 100% safe option for you is to not leave the country. Its madness as youre a US citizen but at this point things are still going through the courts and its not clear where this will stop.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

The scary thing is we have no clue. But they do seem to be racist in their targeting, so if you look white, I'd imagine you'd have a much lower risk.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

You’re not ridiculous for worrying, but I think you’ll be okay. Since we’ve got a bigot running the show, it’ll help even more if you’re white (I hate saying that, but that’s the situation).

The future is another thing to consider. I assume that the situation for immigrants will only get worse, and turn into a complete shitshow when Mango Mussolini goes for his third term. This might be the least precarious time to leave the U.S. for several years. Make your trip count.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You might be kept waiting for days at customs while officers insult you and try to get you to sign self deportation papers. Prepare so that you have what you need if you can never come back. Not joking, that's probably best case scenario, worst is gulag.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, best case scenario is that you're held for days? Where are they keeping these planes full of passengers and crew that are coming into international airports everywhere on a daily basis?

The US is embarrassing. So are "not joking" comments like this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It very much applies if you're not white and/or queer.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I came back from China without issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My coworker who grew up in the soviet union and just moved here from a country trump hates had no problem recently

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you're not brown, then you'll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

should be fine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago
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