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Elon Musk’s xAI powering its facility in Memphis with ‘illegal’ generators
(www.theguardian.com)
It's not illegal if nothing is done to stop it, I guess.
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Laws that aren't enforced are merely suggestions
And when the penalty for breaking the law is only a fine, it means it's only illegal for the common folk.
Tell that to the Germans, who are still weeding through old WWII era documents to account for every last living Nazi before they reach the escape of death.
The Nazis, while in power, said what they were doing was legal. The Holocaust, according to those Nazis, was a perfectly legal thing to do because they changed and abused their laws to make it that way.
That did not stop the Nuremberg trials from prosecuting them.
Nor has it stopped Germany from continuing to prosecute people who were "just following orders".
Theyve convicted two people over the age of 100 in the last decade.
Both the German Federal Constitutional Court and the Federal Court of Justice have applied Radbruch's formula numerous times. Its first court appearances were in cases concerned with National Socialist crimes. The defendants in those cases argued that, according to Nazi statutes valid at the time of their acts, those acts had been legal. The courts used Radbruch's formula to argue that some statutes were so intolerable that they had not been law in the first place and consequently could not be used to justify the acts in question.
This is the current interpretation of the meaning of "law" in Germany. Laws which are entirely unjust must be disobeyed.
Though this is different from an administration ignoring the rule of law. In that case it's fairly obvious that violations of laws can be prosecuted by any following administration.
Jesus, he can't even use power without committing a crime.
Would be a real shame if someone did sabotage the power plant somehow...
Nah, the law would get enforced on that person pretty quickly.
Those power plants legally don't exist.
Now it makes sense - Musk did the Nazi salute because he didn’t want his power plant to get attacked!
Just kidding he’s a fucking actual Nazi
... while the rich exploit what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
Think how terrible it would be if someone went to Costco and picked up a bunch of the largest cans of baked beans they could get and filled up as many of those turbines as possible.
Have you ever seen the amount of security at a modern data center like this? No way you are getting in there with any kinds of beans.
That's why you play the long game... Get a job there and organize a potluck.
I’m seeing Kevin from The Office with a giant pot of chili.
"DROP THE BEANS AND PUT YOUR HANDS UP!"
You can get in anywhere if you carry a ladder
Its amazing how far water balloon launchers can send an object.
Isn’t the phrase ‘matter-of-fact’ and not ‘manner’?
You are, for all-intensive purposes, correct.
You are correct. Bone Apple Tea!
I gotta think those generators are pretty suseptible to object that penetrate them. Someone might be "hunting" in the area and miss the animal... ooops.
And then someone gets a free trip to El Salvador.
There were a bunch of cases where power substations got damaged a while back. If I recall correctly they never found the errant "hunter" except in a case where they did it multiple times or something.