Has nobody told you the secret yet... that the entire crew is only a Holodeck simulation!? :-P
Barclay likes to have fun... oh no I've said too much. :-D
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Oh! Like the entire season of enterprise? Makes sense. Love the answer.
I always figured it was easier for the system to simply create real water than it was to simulate fluid dynamics with holography. I think it was encounter at far point where someone fell in the water and they were still wet when they left the holodeck too.
That was Data, I think? First or second ep?
It was Wesley again actually! Data yoinks him out of the water. And it's in Encounter at Farpoint, the first episode.
Hat tip! Thanks, I can't have Mandela effect on my precious TNG.
Happy to lend my Trek knowledge! Also, you might have been thinking of Insurrection, where Data is a floatation device!
My head canon comes from the Steve Shives video about holodecks.
As holodecks use a combination of hologram and replicator technology you can suppose that when they were first installed on the Enterprise they would fully replicate simple objects that people were likely to interact with, such as the snowball Wesley threw or the piece of paper Data carries off. When Picard got hit in the face with a snowball, maybe he told engineering "hey this is unsafe and inappropriate for the flagship of Starfleet, can we get that changed?" Since it was a fairly low-level ticket or maybe because it was a tough fix, it took them a while to get it implemented. So for a while you may see the odd object carried off the holodeck, but by the time of "Ship in a Bottle" that issue has long been solved and nothing can be taken off the holodeck.
I can see picard getting hit wit ha snowball and 'yea no. I'm putting a stop to that.'
Especially season 1 Picard.
The IT department spent many weeks going through the manuals until they figured out how to turn off s owballs, but allow other stuff, like Sherlock Holmes costumes or WATER.
In all fairness, they usually replicate the clothes prior to entering. Though, I imagine if one was so inclined, they could enter the holodeck buck naked and have clothes formed around them.
Brings a new perspective to Barclay's dalliances.
Here's the old Joshua Bell FAQ explanation:
"So can you take things off of the Holodeck?"
Yes. Any object replicated on the Holodeck may leave. Unfortunately, it is sometimes hard to tell what is replicated, and what is not. Snow, such as the snowball thrown by Wesley in "The Naked Now" is easily replicated, and dampness is hard to simulate. The book thrown by Picard in "Ship In A Bottle" [TNG] would be easily simulated by force beams and thus was not replicated.
The paper in "Elementary, Dear Data" [TNG] was likely simulated until the computer realized that it was going to be carried off the Holodeck, at which point it would have been seamlessly replaced with a replicated copy.
Believe it or not, straight to death.
Some parts of the holodeck are generated, some replicated.
It was the same situation from "The Big Goodbye" where Lawrence Tierney and another gangster walk off the holodeck and then panic as they slowly dissolve from the feet up.
Love that episode, but they retcon that later with Moriarty when Picard throws a book toward the arch and it dematerializes as it hits the barrier.
‘I want the simulated people to have a moment or two to realize what’s going on so maybe they can get back in the holodeck. Or, y’know, have final moments of terror as their simulations unravel. Can you do that for me Gordi?’
‘…captain. I’m pretty sure intentionally inflicting torture on simulated minds is a sign of psychopathy.’
‘I WILL ABSOLUTELY MAKE PUBLIC EVERY DAMNED HOLO-RECREATION OF STARFLEET PERSONNEL TO THE ENTIRE FLEET IF YOU TELL ME NO!’
Which was pretty much only a threat to Geordie and Barkley as everyone else basically just played poker with Einstein.
Meanwhile riker would make his bang list public to show dominance.
I try not to think about any eps from the season, except for "Farpoint Station, Parts I and II". That one was candy to me as a kid. Watched it on homemade VHS so. many. times.
The only four months I don't have those episodes on is laserdisc, I don't know if they ever even made a laser disc version.