Only a headline because of current events south of the border. Ontario does this every year at this time. Letters home before march break, several more after, likely a phone call from public health, then suspensions. The last part rarely happens because the anti-vaxxers just get an exemption for some bullshit reason. So it’s mostly just a threat so that people aren’t too lazy to get something done.
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This isn't entirely true. If you check the numbers, the number of cases have steadily been going up over the last decade, which sharp rises especially the last few years. And until this year, this has only been an issue for a single month before all cases disappear for the year. But for the first time, not only are the cases several times our yearly average, but it's been going on for far longer than even last year.
We are in the middle of an outbreak, though admittedly mostly on a technical sense so far. But trends are a terrifying thing, since this year we have over 800 cases when last year it didn't reach 150, and we had a total of 16 cases for the four years before that, combined. This is across the entire nation, not just Ontario. This year alone, we have more than four times as many cases as we have the five years before it combined.
We have exceeded the greatest outbreak as far back as I can find data (about 30 years), and only the second time in that many years have we exceeded 250 cases in a single year, and we tripled that number.
This no COVID19, but this isn't something to simply ignore either.
While I don't like the idea of students being suspended for having stupid parents, at the same time a certain amount of protection needs to be done for those students who's families are doing everything they can to protect them.
When anti-vaxxors create an epidemic for a virus that we had eradicated a half century ago, my sympathy goes far down, especially since while most people who gets measles recover quickly without any serious issues, it is still a virus that kills and maims a notable percentage of those that get it. Not to mention that not getting the measles vaccine means that they didn't get the MMR vaccine specifically, which covers mumps and rubella as well, all of which are highly contagious to the point that just being in the same room that someone infect was in two hours earlier can cause one go catch it.
It is true that for most people, these are mild viruses, but for the minority, they cause lifetime disabilities. It makes no sense to take such a risk when the prevention is not only free to all Ontarians, but the only side effect is suffering from a sore arm for a day or two from a vaccine three generations of people have been taking without problems. This is not about a procedure with limited proof that there are no side effects, but instead on the level that declaring soap usage might bring more harm than good.
Good - if you want your kids in a public school, get them vaccinated, period.
Rare Ontario w.
Damn, that sucks. I didn't realize measles was getting that bad. Hopefully the kids that got it are doing ok.
Let's not be like the states and let conspiracy but jobs screaming anti-vax bs become louder than actual professionals.
I want to say "good", but having been a kid with shitty parents, I genuinely think this is going to be doing more harm than good.
I remember back in elementary we had to pay lunch fees in order to eat at the school during lunch. It was apparently to help pay for the people who supervised us during lunch break, since the school didn't provide food. Since my parents gave priority to my father's alcohol and cigarettes as he sat on his ass playing computer games all day adding nothing to our tight budget, they would never pay for the fees.
It felt like a double punishment having parents who didn't care enough to pay said fees, and a school that put that responsibility on you as the student to advocate for yourself to your own fucking parents or else they'd have you sit in the office's old nursery alone doing nothing each day for 45 minutes as everyone else had recess.
I get that this is different from that cause it's a health and safety issue, but this genuinely feels like it's punishing the students who are already powerless and have awful parents, and I wouldn't be surprised if this grows dissent with the education system as they grow up. Surely there's better options that target the parents?
The two situations are different. In your situation, your presence or absence in the lunch room didn't directly affect other children. Unvaccinated children can put every other child in the school at risk. Vaccines sometimes don't take effect, and some children cannot be vaccinated due to other medical conditions. We need a very high percentage to receive vaccines to achieve herd immunity. If too many parents refuse to vaccinate then the only way to maintain herd immunity is to remove the unvaccinated from the herd. That's what this does. It's not about punishing the unvaccinated, it's about protecting everyone else.
Just vaccinate all those kids. It isn't hard to give a bunch of shots to kids. Well it is, but the hard part is legal not logistics.
Not everyone can be vaccinated. That's the point in the rest of us who can, to be vaccinated.
They also don't account for the fact that vaccination isn't a magic block against getting COVID. Vaccination reduces the likelihood of infection and, if you do get infected, the severity. COVID can still break through that and have serious, life-altering consequences. Fuck putting my kids' health in danger so awful parents can continue to abuse their kids with no consequence.
Edit: btw, I'm referring to the original comment in this thread. The person you're replying to wants to vaccinate the kids against the parents' will, which is a good thing if they can be.
The numbers that cannot be vaccinated are tiny, and are one of the logistically issues that need to be handled, but are not very hard compared to the political problem.
Yeah, logistically giving vaccines to the remaining unvaccinated people isn't hard (provided it's safe for them to accept them) given how many people we vaccinate at scale already.
Politically, the antivax movement really should be more fringe that it is and it's scary to manage (at least from my perspective).
This policy is the way it used to be
Parents caved and got their children immunized
Wow when and where did you grow up? Paying to be allowed to have lunch break at school is insane
Edmonton, and I attended from I think 2005-2012.
Alberta...it makes sense now.
Sounds like depression- someone with depression
Edit:Don’t blame yourself or your family this is on society for ruining mental illness resources.