Big mistake. They should focus on Bourbon and food. That will hit MAGAts the hardest.
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No, bourbon and food is small fry.
Internet services headquartered in the US. That's the real deal.
Require a $100/per computer/per year on-going tax (phased in very slowly over 36 months, with extremely slow ramp in the first 18 months) for every enterprise Windows installation. Then figure out a similar approach for cloud computing and mobile enterprise (targeting Android/iOS). That's how you grab the Americans by the balls.
That windows tax sounds like a way to bring about the year of the Linux desktop and I like that idea.
That windows tax sounds like a way to bring about the year of the Linux desktop and I like that idea.
I recognize the irony of "year of linux on the desktop", but we (not only EU, I say this as someone from non-EU Europe) should not be giving the Americans money. They've proven that they are unreliable and unwilling to deal with corruption and degeneracy in their country. No disrespect to sane Americans, but at the end of the day they too need to make things happen.
For the record, I'm american. Entire current situation aside, I would prefer my chosen operating system have more support and if I can at least get that out of the destruction of the only country I've ever lived in I mean that's something I guess.
But yeah you probably shouldn't be financing the Nazis of the 2020s that is true, and taxing people who do would probably cut down on that.
As I said, no disrespect to sane Americans.
I've lived in the US and travelled extensively around the country (not only Manhattan and north-western part of LA), there are many sane Americans even in provincial pro-corruption hotspots.
But until the sane Americans implement true anti-corruption, judicial and election reforms (no Obama style "hope and change" bullshit), it is reasonable to expect nothing good to come out of the US. Even if a hypothetical Michelle Obama administration takes power in the next election (which is a giant if), that's not going to change anything until the Americans stop treating their oligarchs and criminal groups as sacred cows.
You're preaching to the choir man I've been beating this drum with increasing volume for years. We need 20 million+ of us on the national mall demanding a new constitution and government under threat of 1789 and I don't honestly know if that's possible.
Michelle Obama or any Dem won't be taking power in 2028, if the above doesn't happen 2028 isn't a real election and if it does the United States Government as it currently exists doesn't anymore so who even knows what the structure of our government will be.
Idk don't count on us getting our shit together, trump could literally genocide Hispanics on American soil and 1/3 of Americans would strongly approve specifically genociding Hispanics. Even if we recover from this, things will get worse for Americans as our empire crumbles, and in 40 years when I'm the boomer and my friends are all the boomers, we'll collectively beg for the good old days we grew up in when the American Empire was still strong, and we'll collectively vote for the new nationalists of the day to make America great again again.
I should mention that while I'm a fan of democracy and would never want to live under another system of government I do not and have never believed democracy to be long term sustainable. Maybe I would if I lived in a real one idk but y'all still got far right problems over there in most of the former empires so idk.
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Lets be realistic here, everything from MAGA dominated states is small fry, they are not exactly the most productive states.
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Even better: services. Tariff Facebook ads, Netflix subscriptions, Office 365, Amazon Prime. If the corporations want to pull the strings in government, hit them directly.
Yes, that would be part of it. Windows on enterprise is just a good, simple example.
Invoke anti coercion regulations and suspend intellectual property rights of the US companies. Job done.
I think that surprising amount of them are already located in Ireland for that and other tax related possibilities. Giant corporations are basically pirates sailing on lawless waters.
Target HQ based on consolidated financial account reporting not regional HQ. Doesn't matter if you have a regional subsidiary in Ireland or Moldova. If the final accounts/HQs are US-based all transactions in Europe get hit with massive on-going subscription-style tariffs (since ICT services are largely subscription based).
If only tax-evasion was so easily solved. The are not shy of restructuring completely just to fit into any gap that law created. On paper "BigBadCorpo US" and "BigBadCorpo Irealand" could be two completely separate entities, with BBCI turning zero to no profits becouse it license brand from BBCUS.
You would think that Worner Bross is a movie making company. It's not. On paper it's a company that lend very overprices movie equipment. To shell companies created solely for the purpose of creating one movie...
Taxes are hard and people who employ literal armies of layers have the edge over slow law making.
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Yeah, that's an odd one to leave out. US alcohol isn't any form of necessity either.
Maybe there's a export like rye that the EU provides
Maybe it's to avoid tarrifs on European alcohols?
kentuckys economy is exclusively bourban, or at least most of it.
And Kentucky is full of magats
Right, why are countries not coordinating counter tariffs. Why isn't EU and Canada and others joining up to target some of the biggest donors and supporters
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There's Irish Scottish and Japanese whisky which are in my opinion superior anyway, should take a leaf from Canadas book and take them off the shelves.
As a Canadian, I don’t give a rat’s ass what other countries do. I WILL NOT buy anything American. Full stop!!
American spirits are mixers here, I'll use bourbon if I want a cocktail but if I want a glass of something - I dont reach for american.
I dont want them off the shelves though, I wan america to revwrse course and be fucking normal before we end up at war.
You and me both sister.
Canada makes rye whiskey
When I did drink, I found bourbon too sweet
If the american supply ceases, european producers won't be able to handle demand. Expect higher prices - good whiskey takes several years to produce and nobody has prepared for a stupid situation like this
Suck it up, buttercup. Take a stand!!
Lack of alcohol supply (a specific kind no less) is so far down the list of actual problems though. The majority of the population of the EU in every country seems to be on board with suffering a little in order to stick it to trump, so whiskey is really a weird thing to not import, especially given the potential impact it can have on the political opinion in affected regions.
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Someone in charge likely has a bourbon cellar. If you’ve ever had good bourbon, you’ll understand. Small amounts of the top shelf bourbon can be like good chocolate.
Or they’re practiced lushes and don’t want any alcohol price increases.
I think they're avoiding it because of the exports of wine, champagn, beer, etc. out of the EU more than anything, but that's just a (very slightly) educated guess.
Found the American.
It’s all Whiskey, it having to be made in the USA is the only distinction of it being Bourbon.
There’s plenty of Whiskeys, Ryes and Corn Whiskeys that blow Bourbon out of the water.
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Just the initial wave. The next one should be a way bigger response to the blanket EU tariff
can’t do tariffs on the us but how about that chat control?
The eu seems to be really incapable of doing anything lately.
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