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A large number of EU resolutions on Ukraine are being blocked by Hungary, said Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis.

Hungary is digging in and refusing to wave through billions in military aid for Ukraine, prompting growing dismay among other EU countries. 

"I have to calm myself [when] I talk about this issue, because it’s getting really ridiculous now,” a senior EU diplomat said of the standoff with Hungary, speaking before Monday's meeting of EU foreign ministers. “What’s happening is outrageous.” 

Diplomats had hoped to have a new €6.6 billion package ready ahead of this week's meetings of foreign and defense ministers in Brussels. The deal included €860 million for arms procurement, reported by POLITICO last week.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is time to develop a way to remove nations who clearly don’t have the EU’s best interest at heart. Hungary is long overdue to be bounced from the EU.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

War is bad.

Every day we extend this war, more and more people die, statistically mostly civilians. While we are spending billions on bombs, China spends billions on healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

And for what? So that the part of Ukraine that was trying to secede during the civil war has to stay? Because Russia is going to start a war with NATO after spending a hundred thousand lives trying and failing to avoid having most of its population and industry a few hundred miles from a hostile NATO member?

This is in nobody's interest except the shareholders of weapons manufacturers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

.ml detected, opinion rejected.

Go back to your shithole tankie.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oof that's very closed minded of you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Not really. Being open minded doesn't mean you give equal credence to nut jobs, conspiracy theorists, racists, etc.

I wouldn't listen to a Nazis opinions on Jews.

I wouldn't listen to a zionists opinion on Palestine.

And I don't listen to a tankies opinion on Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is in nobody’s interest except the shareholders of weapons manufacturers.

You forgot about a country called Ukraine there buddy.

I gotta say, of all the conflicts going on in the world, Ukraine/Russia has got to be the one with the clearest "good" side and "bad" side. Pick another conflict to be edgy about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

For the people in Ukraine, this protracted war is the absolute worst possible outcome. Ukraine will never be a safe country again in either of our lifetimes. The state has had to privatize and sell off public assets like the power grid and take out massive loans. Ukraine will never be a prosperous country again in either of our lifetimes.

As far as black and white conflicts go, there's a country currently dropping 2000 lb bombs on a tent-city of mostly starving children, that formed from refugees of it's earlier bombing campaign, who are mostly refugees of even earlier ethnic cleansing campaigns.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While that is unfortunate, it's still better than the alternative...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It absolutely is not. Nothing Russia could possibly impose on the people is worse than an entire generation of men lost to the meat grinder and the poverty that follows this kind of economic damage. A quick loss would have a million more Ukrainians living in their homes today instead of displaced throughout the world, and a hundred thousand still alive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nothing Russia could possibly impose on the people is worse than an entire generation of men lost to the meat grinder and the poverty that follows this kind of economic damage.

Wrong. Ask Ukraine or all the other former SU countries. They already know how it is to "live" under Russian occupation. If you're such a fan of that, go move over there for yourself, and join VK so you can at least spare us with your moronic propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please stop abusing the flagging system. "Misinformation" is not against the rules. You flagged them over a dozen times for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Hey @[email protected], I haven't reported any misinformation myself, but just pointing out that your community rule 3 says, "Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed."

TBH I've noticed a lot of accommodation for the feelings of tankies in mod decisions here recently. I get that you probably want to be "balanced", but could we maybe just agree that it's a FACT that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was not justified or legal, even if it hurts the feeling of those who like to defend the actions of the war criminal Vladimir Putin?

If you agree that this is indeed a fact, then perhaps you might also consider clamping down on all the tankie posts that amount to nothing more than apologia for authoritarian dictators? If not, I'd love to know your reasoning for allowing them to post their toxic propaganda here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Why can't we just let every country give individual aid to Ukraine to circumvent this?

Hungary can suck on Pootins shoes all it wants, it can't influence other countries.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Hungry Hungary

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Hungary needs to get their shit together, or Ukraine will be the least of the worries when they are shown the door or have funding slashed, lol.

I can guarantee life in the EU is better than that of a vassal state of Russia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Can't the EU 'suspend' Hungary's membership until Orban the dictator is removed from office?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

FUCK Hungary, kick them the fuck out already goddamn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The EU isn't going to kick out their scapegoat. Countries are perfectly capable of coordinating and sending aid without an EU resolution. If Germany, France, or anyone else wanted to send aid it would be in transit already.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Hungary is just waiting for another kick back before they give the green light. And they'll get it, just like they did last time.

But there's legitimately more to the EU than just two dozen countries agreeing to disagree. Unified support means opening Hungary up for logistical support as well. As a Ukrainian neighbor that's also bordering the central European powers, their pivotal for moving materials into Ukraine.