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FU** the CBC!
I’m not sure if government funded news from a government owned by corporations is a great idea.
Better than getting it directly from the corporations. We have more leverage over government. And we can vote in a different government, especially if we keep up the pressure for electoral reform.
as compared to getting it directly from those corporations? like what is the superior alternative that you're more sure about??
Most people get their news from alternative sources anyway.
Which has proven catastrophic... But i guess that's what you like?
No. I hate it. But pushing funding into corporate media is going to exacerbate that issue is the problem.
into corporate media
I usually hear that to refer to privately owned media, which this isn't.
So your solution is total corporate ownership of any and all news outlets?
Honestly man, I don’t actually have a good solution to this. It’s a shitty situation our modern media has backed itself into.
Well doubling down on what caused the problem is not likely a good solution
They acknowledged my points so I appreciated that.
I’m a big enough man to acknowledge when I’m wrong. Lord knows it happens all the time. My frustration comes from these already tried solutions that aren’t going to solve the issue. Which is that the people you need to convince aren’t going to trust a government funded news source at this point. Not that privatized media is any better for actual factual journalism. You see what I’m saying? The only good journalism now is from books that are well cited, which are hard to actually produce and 99 percent of people don’t read. That’s why this frustrates me so much.
Which is that the people you need to convince aren’t going to trust a government funded news source at this point.
Which is why we need to reframe it more accurately. They government doesn't fund it: we do.
Like facebook!
Yes. Sadly, yes. And they’ll say “well this is liberal propaganda on cnn because look at how much money they gave them.” So this whole exercise is futile.
When i go to the doctor I pay no attention to their medical advice, I always get sicker and sicker, see how doctors suck??
Circular logic is circular
You understand that doctors and media are wildly different things right?
It's called an analogy
Yeah but analogies are supposed to be at least comparable. What you’re doing is bad faith mixed with stupidity.
Do the conservatives hate it? Yes? Then it's a good thing.
The liberals and conservatives in Canada might as well be the same party at this point for me. I hate them both so much.
They’re different
Liberals are the old Conservatives
Conservatives are the old Reform Party
You’re right. They are different. The conservatives will 100% cow to Trumps regime. And that is a big important difference. But the liberals have been fucking us just as hard as Harper did, so you can see why I might be less than stoked about supporting that party.
I understand fully, I think more people should realize what I mentioned though and our two historical parties are really the NDP/Liberals now
That is exactly like saying Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are the same. See how that worked out?
I mean that's a good way to look at it since they both serve capital first and foremost, but it's also excessively reductive. Liberals run on giving the workers breadcrumbs to gain their support while conservatives run on taking away those breadcrumbs, so while liberals and conservatives tend to agree on the bad stuff and disagree on the good stuff. Of course they might agree on something good every blue moon, but it's almost impossible for liberals to want a bad thing and conservatives to oppose it if you consider how those two groups fundamentally function.
TL;DR: If liberals want it and conservatives don't, it's almost guaranteed to be at least marginally good for you (CBC is here). If they agree on something it's either political suicide to oppose it (publicized healthcare is here) or bad for you (tax breaks for the rich are here); you'll have to exercise your judgement there.
Yeah, I understand this. And you explained it exactly how I already perceive it. It’s just exhausting and I’m tired of pretending the liberals aren’t also the enemy, to maybe skew some votes every four years for the lesser evil. It’s stupid. It’s bullshit. I’m done doing it. And I don’t really care if that makes people angry. Because that’s also stupid as fuck.
Oh then you're completely right; liberals are also the enemy—arguably the worse of the two—and the Left should be a lot more unapologetical about that fact.
Whoever downvoted you is a huge fucking wiener.
Eh, you get used to it.
The alternative is media owned by foreign (American) billionaires.
I much prefer the one our taxes pay for thank you very much.
We’ve been through this before and it pushed our country into alternative foreign owned and backed media shit. The Rebel Media and such got a huge surge in traffic after Trudeau promised funding to the CBC. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills at this point, does nobody else remember this shit?
I don't remember that, no. But CBC needs funding regardless.
I have trouble believing increased funding for CBC was the majority force behind our current media landscape.
Well it was, I remember having to hear about it endlessly from all my construction friends at work constantly when it happened.
Well they sound like a petty bunch, but I still think it's the oligarchs of the continent that hold most of the blame.
If in today's day and age you're not sure about this, after escaping Reddit I assume, you've got some considering to do. 🥹