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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was obviously being hyperbolic, this ship is not literally unsinkable, it's extremely hard to do. If a country like Pakistan is willing to use nukes to sink it, they probably could, but at that point there's bigger problems to worry about than the ship.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So as long as Pakistan would back Iran, the US wouldn't use that ship?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like your scenario is flawed. Pakistan is not going to use their nukes under any circumstance. Their legal nuclear policy explicitly states that Pakistan will not use nukes unless they were nuked first. The chances of the US nuking Pakistan is zero, so it'll never happen.

If Pakistan decided to do away with their own long standing nuclear policy, then that means the nuclear threat is back on the table, and in that case India, who has a similar nuclear policy, will do away with theirs. Meaning that there will be a freakout between India and Pakistan having nuclear war almost immediately. Actually it'll go beyond India because Pakistan's other big neighbor, China, will also not be happy with this turn of events. That's a nightmare scenario that the already unstable Pakistan would want to avoid at any cost.

Even if a fallout with India was somehow miraculously avoided, Pakistan is not going to waste their precious and very limited nukes on a single ship, let alone an American ship, let alone the flagship of the US navy. If they did do that then that means they intentionally chose to declare total war on the US of their own volition, and that is a big no no. The US has way more people, a way bigger economy, a much powerful military, and more importantly, a lot more nukes. This would guarantee that Pakistan gets glassed.

Keep in mind Pakistan only has three core cities: Lahore, Islamabad, and Karachi. It wouldn't take a lot for the US to break the country. And the thing is? Most of the world isn't going to do anything. Why? Two reasons. The first, is that Pakistan started the war and they chose to use a nuke, so they're not going to find a lot of sympathy from the international community. The second, nobody wants to go to war with the US. Every country is going to try and cover their own ass, and so at most they'll make public condemnation statements or call for restraint and diplomacy.

And for what? For Iran? Iran and Pakistan literally bombed each other not too long ago because they accused each other for harboring terrorists. It's literally the spiderman meme. Regardless, if they were best chums in a hypothetical world, Pakistan still wouldn't risk it. Actually even Iran wouldn't risk it even if they did go to war with the US because they would very much rather not piss off the American public and have them employ a more scorched earth policy.

So while, on a pointlessly technical level, Pakistan could theoretically sink the Ford carrier with nuke on the behalf of Iran, the chances of that happening are pretty much zero. Even though you used Pakistan as an example, a similar case applies to any other country. This ship doesn't exist in vacuum, it's backed by the world's most powerful military.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 2 hours ago

I only used Pakistan as an example as it's like the only Muslim nation that actually has nuclear weapons. And I do remember reading a couple months back that Pakistan said they would defend Iran if they were attacked by US. I can't remember where I read it though, so I can't verify it, but it's why I used it as my example.