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[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago

Are there a lot of fishermen out there for Hegseth to soften his murder boner on?

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah well peace doesn't make itself you know.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 11 hours ago

Peace can't exist without war, don't you know? ... wait a second ...

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 42 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Do we really need to bomb Iran again?

Can’t we just… not?

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

If you have a better way for Israel to forestall elections and reckoning for their failure to keep their ghetto under control we would love to hear it. Because using the epstein blackmail to force the US into starting our new forever war, Persian Gulf War III, is what we are working with here.

And there will be no shortage of pretexts to reopen hostilities no matter of peace agreements afterwards, hence the forever part. We had to cross over to hit a militant group, terror group, whatever. Every time Israel's leaders' approval ratings are down or they are facing a vote they can pretext up another round of Iran war.

The beauty of it, for them, is that Iran is nearly powerless to respond. They've a non existant airforce, rudimentary missiles and air defense, and are fundamentally compromised in their communications on a base level allowing near total visibility in what they are doing. Satelites, drones, the air forces, it's fun killing people that can't fight back! /s

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If we want to see this stop, we need a revolution. We need to build a worker-led anti-imperialist movement.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah... i've seen how that works. Workers are incredibly corrupt, like most people.

We need something that delivers transparency with intelligence and a huge amount of social empathy as it's core. Can't work in this world. Globalism is here but fragmented feifdoms of horror remain all over, even in the wealthiest and best educated areas. To prop up one nation on the grounds of social empathy at the cost of others invites the same kind of problem we're in today, and there's simply not enough to go around with 8 billion people.

I don't have a solution to fix the world's problems, if I did I would use it. Instead all I can do is push for some kind of regulatory action. Again, consequences for shareholders. There should be the biggest penalty for unethical, immoral and illegal actions taken against humanity by the people who have a stake in the business. Leadership comes from the top, and if they are unable to avoid horrors, perhaps they shouldn't have the assets that allow them to lead.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Anarchism is the solution. We have enough resources and land for everyone to have a fantastic quality of life. We just need to stop allowing people to rule over us. Make everyone equal and corruption is no longer possible.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

trump can’t reply as he’s deep throating netanyahu

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Surely Netanyahu has kompromat on him too right?

[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Epstein was working for Israel. They've got it all.

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Do we think that’s where Russia got it, or they have their own.

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

while getting banged from behind by putin.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Nah Putin is watching from the cuck chair

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Hey, what you don't trust me?

[–] Pirat@lemmy.org 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There used to be a satirical musical group called the Capitol Steps that sang a song called "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran" sung to the tune of the Beach Boys Barbara Ann. This was at 20 years ago. Unfortunately, Covid killed the group (as in made it no longer viable because people quit coming to see them, not actually killing them).

I wish they'd try to make a comeback.

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 17 hours ago

yeah US Senator John McCain of Arizona himself loved to sing that little ditty

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We're still looking for the WMDs.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

We do have the receipts so we know they did have them, Iraq.

Of course we also knew he used them all on his own people if not the Iranians, as we supported him in the Iraq/Iran war, one of the bloodiest wars in history, I think over a million deaths from it. Hussein was fond of human wave attacks on machine gun nests and fortified lines.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 0 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

https://youtu.be/s8hEtI9AI0U

I'd love to see the end of the Ayatollahs myself.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

Supporting Israel and the US attacking them cements them in power as they rally around the flag. And even if he did get overthrown, nothing better would result. More likely is they kill him in an airstrike, and nothing better will result. Anyone supporting this war is a fool and a traitor to the common good. Ignorance is no excuse.

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 13 points 17 hours ago

Many people do, but there are legitimate concerns about

  1. if an invasion could even actually achieve this,
  2. the humanitarian cost of it (aka A LOT of innocent people dying or losing everything),
  3. the long term effects of destabilizing a whole region and
  4. the damage to the rules based global order caused by yet another war of aggression from a side that is supposed to support and not undermine that order.
[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 14 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Theoretically... what would happen if Iran or someone else happens to magically sink this thing, fighter jets and all?

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

The US would freak out and escalate the war. But they are going to do that anyway sooner or later, this is a forever war, Israel needs it for their domestic agenda, and the US party, the one fixing elections to stay in power, is all in.

But regardless if they did sink it the administration would try and treat it like Pearl Harbor and use it to escalate tensions more than they have support to do already.

Public opinion is the only thing holding them back now, and they aren't entirely certain how much they need public opinion still given the elections aren't reliably fixed yet, at least not back to back fixed. We can still stop them here, but the window to do so is closing.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 6 points 12 hours ago

More pollution in the Mediterranean :(

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Without reading an article, but I will assume you mean a magical macguffin weapon just.....sinks it and no one knows what happened. The response depends on a few things.

Without its strike groupThreat assessment will show its defenses were overwelmed by the macguffin weapon. Maybe even conventional missiles - these things aren't invincible.

With Strike GroupThe normal Carrier travels with 12-15 destroyers and other auxiliary vessels to provide screening and defense overlapping. If the carrier is struck and damaged/sunk in the center or back of this strike group, without loss of other vessels, an immediate retreat and Threat assessment will be done to see how the macguffin weapon got past everything else. This would be the concern - again Carriers aren't invincible, but how your macguffin got past so much radar would be important and the MAIN focus, if the macguffin did not do it in an immediately obvious way.

Strike Group disabled/sunkIf the entire strike group is damaged/sunk, the entire fleet will pull back to begin assessing risk of the macguffin. Damaging a fair number of ships run by the United States in a short order should be beyond poor nations capabilities, so the macguffiin weapon would necessitate reevaluation. Delay of at least a week to assess where/what the macguffin weapon is, (Assuming its a singular object) and then if the target, say Iran, is able to be struck within a specific loss ratio of troops.

A macguffin weapon like a Deathstar type where it can fire at single target position would give most Threat analysis away and the immediate questions to answer would be 1. How much energy/fuel/ammunition does it cost to fire. (If a broke country can afford a mega laser - how don't I have one?) 2. How does it target (radar can be blocked, is it manually aimed as direct fire/ parabolic like artillery) 3. How can it be avoided (like blocking radar to aim, or like can a physical obstruction block the firing angle. 4. Can it be destroyed (is it susceptible to a strike team on land to sabotage?) 5 Is there more than one.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Or someone can pull a Ukraine and manually aim and fire missiles from land.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 hours ago

My brother/sister/sibling in the 'tism came out strong, with several scenarios even.

Here, have some stimuli.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 6 points 17 hours ago

If it looks like something that could happen again, rather than a one-off fluke, USA would have to change their whole naval doctrine. The strategic arms balance of all countries would need to be reassessed.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 17 hours ago

Could be used as another USS Liberty, though I'd assume they would go for a cheaper carrier, and it looks like Israel is getting all the support from USA it needs.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t want to see people die, but the US needs to suffer a wound like this.

[–] pastaq@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Because that worked out so well the last time...

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 points 11 hours ago

The last time they needed desperately to bring the public support for a war around bcs the ppl were very much against a war (with financial/imperial goals).

Ohhh ... yeah, I see, poor ship.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Monkey paw finger curls

Hiroshima, August 6th, 1945

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

You got downvoted, but with the current administration? A WMD response might be chosen. So it might lead to nuclear war... and a chain effect.

Then, suddenly...

"I don't want to set the world on fire~" 🥲

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Kind of off topic, but I've seen the the Ford carrier in Virginia before and it is HUGE. It's crazy how big this ship is. It's like the Empire State Building tilted sideways. When you see it irl, it really puts in perspective just how powerful one ship can get.

[–] Pirat@lemmy.org 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It will probably trip and fall then jump saying it's OK. Gerald Ford actually like Dana Carvey's portrayal of him.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Pirat@lemmy.org 1 points 15 hours ago

Oh. You're right. Dana did Bush the first. Wouldn't be prudent.